# AB's "Not Sure" & "Average" & "huh?" thread

**URL:** <https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763>\
**Category:** Bikes\
**Created:** [July 2, 2008, 6:12pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763 "2008-07-02T18:12:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 702

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**Author:** ![VT\_regularbike](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/vt_regularbike/32/153_2.png) [@VT\_regularbike](https://tarck.cc/u/VT_regularbike)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 4:44am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14024 "2018-05-25T04:44:52Z")

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It’s really needs to be mounted on the back of one of those stoker faces backwards tandems. Because trying to grill while riding on the front would melt grips, shifter housing, and all the other plastic bits. You could possibly do it on a fixed brakeless track and only rode no hands so you didn’t have to grab your sweet unwrapped bars and burn your hands.

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**Author:** ![NOVELTYNAME](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@NOVELTYNAME](https://tarck.cc/u/NOVELTYNAME)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 4:59am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14025 "2018-05-25T04:59:34Z")

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Yeah this is not a Tarck trend I’m going to participate in

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**Author:** ![goose\_value\_69](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/goose_value_69/32/169983_2.png) [@goose\_value\_69](https://tarck.cc/u/goose_value_69)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 5:31am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14026 "2018-05-25T05:31:13Z")

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Sundealicious

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**Author:** ![sparksflyhigh](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/sparksflyhigh/32/661_2.png) [@sparksflyhigh](https://tarck.cc/u/sparksflyhigh)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 5:39am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14027 "2018-05-25T05:39:30Z")

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> [@NOVELTYNAME](#):
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> Yeah this is not a Tarck trend I’m going to participate in

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**Author:** ![Shortpants](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Shortpants](https://tarck.cc/u/Shortpants)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 5:52am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14028 "2018-05-25T05:52:13Z")

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I’ve got a bullitt and a grill.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Winget](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@Larry\_Winget](https://tarck.cc/u/Larry_Winget)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 7:50am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14029 "2018-05-25T07:50:48Z")

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[quote=Rentable Faxmachine][quote=ergott]Done. Still waiting for longer seatpost, but wow this bike rawks.

 ![](https://photos.smugmug.com/Cycling/The-bikes/i-HB29R4S/0/801fe37b/X3/20180523_170036-X3.jpg)

 ![](https://photos.smugmug.com/Cycling/The-bikes/i-VXfXZJ9/0/feb14136/X3/20180523_170056-X3.jpg)[/quote]

11/10. Would smang.[/quote]

Please submit this to #slamthatstem.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Winget](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@Larry\_Winget](https://tarck.cc/u/Larry_Winget)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 7:51am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14030 "2018-05-25T07:51:28Z")

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> [@NOVELTYNAME](#):
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> Yeah this is not a Tarck trend I’m going to participate in

My circus bear bike needs are already covered.

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**Author:** ![dotMR](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/dotmr/32/640_2.png) [@dotMR](https://tarck.cc/u/dotMR)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 8:19am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14031 "2018-05-25T08:19:35Z")

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> [@Shortpants](#):
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> I’ve got a bullitt and a grill.

If ever there is a grill involved the Germans have beat you to the idea.

I saw one with a built-in grill…can’t find the photo atm though

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**Author:** ![Rusty\_Piton](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/rusty_piton/32/579_2.png) [@Rusty\_Piton](https://tarck.cc/u/Rusty_Piton)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14032 "2018-05-25T13:51:57Z")

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Uh…

 ![](https://www.bikerumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Motion-E18_dyanmic-linkage-leaf-spring-enduro-mountain-bike-fork_driveside-leaf-spring.jpg)  
[https://bikerumor.com/2018/05/24/motion-updates-wild-170mm-e18-leaf-spring-linkage-enduro-mountain-bike-forks/](https://bikerumor.com/2018/05/24/motion-updates-wild-170mm-e18-leaf-spring-linkage-enduro-mountain-bike-forks/)

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**Author:** ![Roundalab\_yellow](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/roundalab_yellow/32/1126_2.png) [@Roundalab\_yellow](https://tarck.cc/u/Roundalab_yellow)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14033 "2018-05-25T16:23:00Z")

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Looks like a Boston dynamics robot smanged a Lauf fork

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**Author:** ![Todd](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/fbc32d/32.png) [@Todd](https://tarck.cc/u/Todd)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14034 "2018-05-25T16:42:09Z")

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even if that shit worked great, I dont think I would want to ride it.

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**Author:** ![NOVELTYNAME](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@NOVELTYNAME](https://tarck.cc/u/NOVELTYNAME)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14035 "2018-05-25T16:49:38Z")

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![](https://cdn-cyclingtips.pressidium.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Shimano-XTR-M9120-12-speed-groupset.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Rentable\_Faxmachine](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@Rentable\_Faxmachine](https://tarck.cc/u/Rentable_Faxmachine)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14036 "2018-05-25T17:13:24Z")

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I like the cranks’ aesthetics. Rear mech looks like bastard love child of SRAM Eagle and microSHIFT. New freehub design will probably have OE hub vendors scrambling for a while.

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**Author:** ![Todd](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/fbc32d/32.png) [@Todd](https://tarck.cc/u/Todd)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14037 "2018-05-25T17:24:00Z")

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fuck another free hub design… Like I need to run a multivariate analysis to figure out what fucking cassette, hub and shifter combo I can use all from the same company.

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**Author:** ![NOVELTYNAME](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@NOVELTYNAME](https://tarck.cc/u/NOVELTYNAME)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14038 "2018-05-25T17:27:05Z")

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> [@Todd](#):
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> fuck another free hub design…

nono  
this is SHIMANO  
the same shimano that has not moved to a crank spindle larger than 24mm  
shimano will set the standard

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**Author:** ![turpencat](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/7ba0ec/32.png) [@turpencat](https://tarck.cc/u/turpencat)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14039 "2018-05-25T18:37:00Z")

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You guys are going to really like this  
at my first agency job I pitched, won and then worked on this:

> **[Grilling is Happiness | Real Art](https://realart.com/grilling-is-happiness)**
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> A grill-bike goes social to promote the joy of grilling. When Sears asked us to create a campaign around grilling, we honed in on a message of community and happiness. Grilling out is what gets you feeling good inside.

  
 ![](https://39e20071a2c2d42fbc83-25508055e8dd760226d2dd51fb1a6e8d.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/gih_gallery_01.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Face](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/face/32/77523_2.png) [@Face](https://tarck.cc/u/Face)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14040 "2018-05-25T18:38:00Z")

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I need that XTR derper post remote.

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**Author:** ![igor](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/igor/32/21023_2.png) [@igor](https://tarck.cc/u/igor)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14041 "2018-05-25T18:41:40Z")

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[quote=turpencat]You guys are going to really like this  
at my first agency job I pitched, won and then worked on this:

> **[Grilling is Happiness | Real Art](https://realart.com/grilling-is-happiness)**
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> A grill-bike goes social to promote the joy of grilling. When Sears asked us to create a campaign around grilling, we honed in on a message of community and happiness. Grilling out is what gets you feeling good inside.

  
 ![](https://39e20071a2c2d42fbc83-25508055e8dd760226d2dd51fb1a6e8d.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/gih_gallery_01.jpg)[/quote]

That’s amazing. You win.

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**Author:** ![viggen](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/viggen/32/711_2.png) [@viggen](https://tarck.cc/u/viggen)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 7:55pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14042 "2018-05-25T19:55:00Z")

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> [@Todd](#):
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> fuck another free hub design… Like I need to run a multivariate analysis to figure out what fucking cassette, hub and shifter combo I can use all from the same company.

Well think about the fact that Shimano has used the same free hub design for mtb hubs since the 8/9s era…  
Did you throw this fit when SRAM came out with the XD-driver? It certainly was time for Shimano to update their free hub design and it makes sense that they not use something SRAM developed (dollah dollah bills y’all).  
Also problems with licensing seems to play in.

As for the what goes with what part, it’s real simple:  
12s Shimano goes only with new hub design.  
11s and everything older than than goes with the old free hub.  
Same as with SRAM’s XD/non-XD (shimano free hub) thing.  
Road and Mtb are completely separated like always.

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**Author:** ![Todd](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/fbc32d/32.png) [@Todd](https://tarck.cc/u/Todd)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14043 "2018-05-25T20:20:53Z")

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I have no doubt that in a year or two their 11 speed products will be on this new hub design, and if they make any new 10 speed things (think trickle down tiagra and sora) it will also use this hub design. Their new 10 speed dangle (tiagra) that was made for the 11-34 road cassette is on an 11 speed pull ratio… so is incomparable with 10 speed shifters, which is bonkers and is the basis for my prediction.

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