# AB's "Not Sure" & "Average" & "huh?" thread
**URL:** https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763
**Category:** Bikes
**Created:** [July 2, 2008, 6:12pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763 "2008-07-02T18:12:44Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@motorbacon](https://tarck.cc/u/motorbacon)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14044 "2018-05-25T20:59:03Z")
But the actual ratchet mechanism is amazing on paper.
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### Author:  [@JUGE\_FREDD](https://tarck.cc/u/JUGE_FREDD)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14045 "2018-05-25T21:15:32Z")
it’s been available in Dura-Ace wheels for a year or so right?
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### Author:  [@JUGE\_FREDD](https://tarck.cc/u/JUGE_FREDD)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14046 "2018-05-25T21:16:00Z")
> [@Todd](#):
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> fuck another free hub design… Like I need to run a multivariate analysis to figure out what fucking cassette, hub and shifter combo I can use all from the same company.
don’t forget brake levers and dropper remote
it’s yet another i-spec standard
the fourth? following A, B, and II
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### Author:  [@NOVELTYNAME](https://tarck.cc/u/NOVELTYNAME)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14047 "2018-05-25T21:38:58Z")
[quote=JUGE FREDD]
it’s yet another i-spec standard
the fourth? following A, B, and II[/quote]
this is the real bullshit tho
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### Author:  [@Todd](https://tarck.cc/u/Todd)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14048 "2018-05-25T22:09:43Z")
[quote=NOVELTYNAME][quote=JUGE FREDD]
it’s yet another i-spec standard
the fourth? following A, B, and II[/quote]
this is the real bullshit tho[/quote]
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### Author:  [@JUGE\_FREDD](https://tarck.cc/u/JUGE_FREDD)
#### Post date: [May 25, 2018, 11:30pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14049 "2018-05-25T23:30:00Z")
and it’s adjustable to different rotations?
which defeats the point atmo, I liked eliminating yet another stupid thing to line up
at the same time it goes back to the traditional Campagnolo derailleur hanger, no more Shadow / Direct Mount
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### Author:  [@frank\_doktor](https://tarck.cc/u/frank_doktor)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2018, 12:34am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14050 "2018-05-26T00:34:50Z")
I love that they did a 10-45 12 speed because their pros were like, “fuck that 51 shit, We don’t need that extra weight.”
Also, they did a 11s 10-45 cassette for this new standard with a much better spacing at the low end.
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### Author:  [@JUGE\_FREDD](https://tarck.cc/u/JUGE_FREDD)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14051 "2018-05-26T02:11:10Z")
I bet it’s not going to be available for another 6 months
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### Author:  [@NOVELTYNAME](https://tarck.cc/u/NOVELTYNAME)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2018, 5:21am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14052 "2018-05-26T05:21:19Z")
When are worlds? Because whoever is riding that is going to win and it should be a click away
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### Author:  [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14053 "2018-05-27T18:39:58Z")
looks like maybe slightly taller splines but either way enough of them to spread the load a little bit more for ti/al freehubs to not get wrecked, dope ratcheting mechanism and 10t cog compatibility. i don’t see what’s to hate. as long as they don’t pull a “5 different front set cable pulls on concurrently running groups” situation. i thought XD was pretty clever and this design provides more area for cassette splines to engage.
looking forward to seeing it at an slx price point, or just buying the xt level from europe despite having an s tec account
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### Author:  [@Tail\_Hook\_Lengthener](https://tarck.cc/u/Tail_Hook_Lengthener)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14054 "2018-05-27T18:41:32Z")
The taller splines are probably intended to permit alloy freehubs without the awful gauging that beleaguers every aluminum Shimano freehub.
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### Author:  [@Shortpants](https://tarck.cc/u/Shortpants)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14055 "2018-05-27T19:41:50Z")
> [@Tail Hook Lengthener](#):
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> The taller splines are probably intended to permit alloy freehubs without the awful gauging that beleaguers every aluminum Shimano freehub.
They all but said this in their release statement.
Everyone is in a tizzy about the new freehub standard but I think it was about fucking time they moved on. What will be interesting to see is the real competition now between sram and shimano.
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### Author:  [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14056 "2018-05-27T22:42:51Z")
are they actually taller though? or do they just look like it since the splines are like half of the “length” at 23 instead of 13?
i’ve only looked at one or two articles so far. remember that time they made the 7800 freehub body, then they stopped and no other cassettes fit the top of the line hub?
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### Author:  [@Tail\_Hook\_Lengthener](https://tarck.cc/u/Tail_Hook_Lengthener)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2018, 11:47pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14057 "2018-05-27T23:47:39Z")
I bet that Shimano has a 10-28 cassette on the next generation of Dura Ace.
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### Author:  [@iwillbe](https://tarck.cc/u/iwillbe)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2018, 1:01am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14058 "2018-05-28T01:01:35Z")
I want a 11-22 corncob. One tooth jumps, like the good Lord intended.
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### Author:  [@Rentable\_Faxmachine](https://tarck.cc/u/Rentable_Faxmachine)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2018, 1:09am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14059 "2018-05-28T01:09:41Z")
Nice to see that DT Swiss already has a compatible free/hub.
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### Author:  [@turpencat](https://tarck.cc/u/turpencat)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2018, 2:27am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14060 "2018-05-28T02:27:39Z")
> [@iwillbe](#):
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> I want a 11-22 corncob. One tooth jumps, like the good Lord intended.
I do not want to live in a world with this god.
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### Author:  [@eric\_ssucks](https://tarck.cc/u/eric_ssucks)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14061 "2018-05-28T02:32:28Z")
This god also made is possible for Donald Trump, a shitlord, to be president of the United States of America. I’m glad I’m an atheist. Fuck your god(s).
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### Author:  [@Eddbread](https://tarck.cc/u/Eddbread)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14062 "2018-05-30T13:45:25Z")
[quote]Hey Ed,
The stock forks are stock and priced accordingly. I have plans for a rando version of the triplane with offset blades for later this fall. It will be priced like the other custom triplanes, but built by me in my shop, around $1000. Triplanes are custom and sourced from a number of different places including NOS true temper steerers, custom drawn and butted blades, 3d waterjet and heat treated crowns, paragon hardware.
Thanks for the interest. Keep you eyes peeled for the new skinny versions of triplanes.
Best
Cjell[/quote]
Wat
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### Author:  [@Shortpants](https://tarck.cc/u/Shortpants)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/abs-not-sure-average-huh-thread/8763/14063 "2018-05-30T15:44:27Z")
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