# All things NuMTB thread, now lower longer and slacker **URL:** \ **Category:** Bikes\ **Created:** [August 3, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592 "2018-08-03T17:00:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 220
**Author:** ![amy](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/amy/32/37766_2.png) [@amy](https://tarck.cc/u/amy)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4391 "2022-10-10T22:07:14Z")
Many people have the mistaken idea that locking out your shock helps climbing, but as you learned it’s awful for traction. Not worth the efficiency gains you may or may not get. I run like 20-22 psi in my 2.4/2.5 in tires @ 150 lbs body weight, but ymmv. Gotta play with fire to find your lower limit then add air as you start going faster and smashing into things. ---
**Author:** ![Crustradamus](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/crustradamus/32/7841_2.png) [@Crustradamus](https://tarck.cc/u/Crustradamus)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 10:42pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4392 "2022-10-10T22:42:54Z")
“the hardtail lie” ---
**Author:** ![frank\_doktor](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/frank_doktor/32/12_2.png) [@frank\_doktor](https://tarck.cc/u/frank_doktor)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 11:55pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4393 "2022-10-10T23:55:16Z")
The only advantage is if you are doing miles of road climbing. But I still don’t do it because I will still probably forget to unlock it at the start of the downhill (in part because I don’t do it enough to remember to unlock it). ---
**Author:** ![lithium69420](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/58956e/32.png) [@lithium69420](https://tarck.cc/u/lithium69420)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 12:13am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4394 "2022-10-11T00:13:44Z")
Anybody do on-bike storage? I dislike backpacks and stuff in my pockets, but my bike only has a single bottle cage mount. Have people converged on a type of on-bike storage that works well? Seems like kind of a wild west of storing stuff in my head tube, in the handle bars etc. ---
**Author:** ![Kryptotal\_Bogan](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/kryptotal_bogan/32/47139_2.png) [@Kryptotal\_Bogan](https://tarck.cc/u/Kryptotal_Bogan)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 1:31am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4395 "2022-10-11T01:31:06Z")
Fanny pack ---
**Author:** ![EndpointBraden](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/endpointbraden/32/22101_2.png) [@EndpointBraden](https://tarck.cc/u/EndpointBraden)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 2:22am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4396 "2022-10-11T02:22:55Z")
After years of hating a hydration pack I’m back on that train the USWE stuff is impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Euphorbia](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/euphorbia/32/4687_2.png) [@Euphorbia](https://tarck.cc/u/Euphorbia)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 3:28am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4397 "2022-10-11T03:28:31Z")
Should I get obnoxious pit viper pants ![image](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/e/2/e2b853b01c32d78899bc697a195e74351a9c7afc.jpeg) or booring, but also obnoxious because they are rapha pants (in blue/green) ![image](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/d/9/d9237c1f6891b04c495c3e1eef3883303f32a2fd.jpeg) also, I could not get pants b/c I have nice rain pants and knee pads are knee warmers and I might wear them on 5 rides a year. ---
**Author:** ![Crustradamus](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/crustradamus/32/7841_2.png) [@Crustradamus](https://tarck.cc/u/Crustradamus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 4:05am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4398 "2022-10-11T04:05:26Z")
I ordered a bunch of pants last week and they’re all black fwiw. You can never go wrong with black. ---
**Author:** ![oogens](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/oogens/32/83087_2.png) [@oogens](https://tarck.cc/u/oogens)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 4:08am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4399 "2022-10-11T04:08:43Z")
Get me those clay rapha pants - burnt out on the clown vomit MTB gear ---
**Author:** ![Crustradamus](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/crustradamus/32/7841_2.png) [@Crustradamus](https://tarck.cc/u/Crustradamus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 4:50am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4400 "2022-10-11T04:50:45Z")
Dang I saw they have some dark purp that I’d prolly fux with but I don’t think I can ever bring myself to wear rapha again after abusing the store discounts of many friends for many years as a roadie. ---
**Author:** ![amy](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/amy/32/37766_2.png) [@amy](https://tarck.cc/u/amy)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 5:50am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4401 "2022-10-11T05:50:21Z")
> [@frank\_doktor](#): > > But I still don’t do it because I will still probably forget to unlock it at the start of the downhill Same. Not worth it. For on bike storage, i do a BR strap with a tube, tire lever, co2 and head. The multitool goes in my fanny pack. One of the head tube things might be nice, but i like being able to move things from bike to bike if needed. Storing a bunch of junk on a mtb is tedious, so i bring the bare essentials. ---
**Author:** ![anon71759125](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@anon71759125](https://tarck.cc/u/anon71759125)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4402 "2022-10-11T14:51:45Z")
Hi I am back. I sold my Starling because my body and terrain doesn’t work well with the steep STA. My Honzo felt better, but that frame was a hog. Recommend me a frame, please? I have a 140mm Pike and a 210x50 Select+ shock if going full squish… As far as my Starling’s suspension - it worked really well, but I had a coil too, and couldn’t lock it out. I don’t want a carbon bike. Maybe aluminum, maybe. Been peeking at the SolarisMAX or something from Stanton like the Sherpa? I dont want 140 rear travel, if FS. 120 is plenty. ---
**Author:** ![BicyclePears](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/bicyclepears/32/1266_2.png) [@BicyclePears](https://tarck.cc/u/BicyclePears)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4403 "2022-10-11T14:57:45Z")
canfield yelli screamy or banshee paradox is what i would do if i did an aluminum hardtail. i feel like if you bought an aluminum fully you would hate it because you are belopsky. i wont be taking follow up questions regarding that statement. ---
**Author:** ![anon71759125](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@anon71759125](https://tarck.cc/u/anon71759125)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 3:03pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4404 "2022-10-11T15:03:48Z")
> [@BicyclePears](#): > > canfield yelli screamy or banshee paradox The Starling was very short/upright. If this comparison is correct, the Banshee looks similar/taller to it and I wont like it. Am I wrong? is this wrong? [Compare: 2020 Starling Cycles Murmur 29" Base Medium vs 2019 V3 Banshee Bikes Paradox Base M - Bike Insights](https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5f354086dc924300178e9586,5e17ade952f9ab0017bba782), ---
**Author:** ![anon71759125](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@anon71759125](https://tarck.cc/u/anon71759125)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4405 "2022-10-11T15:04:47Z")
Same with the Canfield. It ticks all the boxes I dont want @BicyclePears Canfield has a 76? 77? sta. No. that’s with a 130 so a 140 would slacken it slightly but also the HTA as well. ---
**Author:** ![oogens](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/oogens/32/83087_2.png) [@oogens](https://tarck.cc/u/oogens)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4406 "2022-10-11T15:05:03Z")
Ripley AF atmo As someone who has a weird, boutique-y full squish, the bigger names just do it better ---
**Author:** ![anon71759125](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@anon71759125](https://tarck.cc/u/anon71759125)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4407 "2022-10-11T15:05:56Z")
I dont like how it looks, but I hear theyre good. Also not sure about that geometry either. ---
**Author:** ![BicyclePears](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/bicyclepears/32/1266_2.png) [@BicyclePears](https://tarck.cc/u/BicyclePears)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 3:15pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4408 "2022-10-11T15:15:22Z")
salsa timberjack. ---
**Author:** ![BicyclePears](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/bicyclepears/32/1266_2.png) [@BicyclePears](https://tarck.cc/u/BicyclePears)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 3:17pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4409 "2022-10-11T15:17:07Z")
and there are apps for browsers that block certain websites, perhaps you should download one of those and block bikeinsights. ---
**Author:** ![oogens](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/oogens/32/83087_2.png) [@oogens](https://tarck.cc/u/oogens)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 3:25pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592/4410 "2022-10-11T15:25:27Z")
What didn’t feel good about the other mtbs? I feel like I’m standing up and moving around on dirt enough that I’m not as sensitive to setback and the like vs road bikes (unless I’m on a long fire road or something, but those are always gonna suck) If you want to go off road with road bike positioning, probably better served by a flat bar gravel bike with a little squisher up front. The long reach and slack head tube that’s so fun when things get rowdy kinda needs the steep seat tube imo to keep the front weighted [Previous page](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592.md?page=219) [Next page](https://tarck.cc/t/all-things-numtb-thread-now-lower-longer-and-slacker/21592.md?page=221)