Well there hasn’t been skiing in Harriman state park since the mid 20th century so this is more a case of repurposing something looooong gone.
Beacon mountain which I am trying to move to the bottom of ran out of snow at the end of the 60s and shit down. Fun riding and great hiking now tho!
It’s wild that there used to be an active ski area on Mt Beacon.
and a ski jump at bear mountain!
CO is full of abandoned ski areas that were built too low to hold snow. Or just too hard to get to so they slowly petered out. I wish skiing was something you could just go do at your local park when it snows. Instead now it’s the new wealth indicator because middle class families can barely afford to go - and only middle class singles if you’re like me and have no kids and spend all your money on recreation.
Single day weekend lift tickets anywhere in CO are $200 and up at the big resorts.
Capitalism really out there ruining everything.
we need more little 3-4 lift ski areas with no development like the ones in national forests on the west coast with lift tickets under $100
trust bust epic
walk back climate change?
for the sake of ski for all
My kids do an after school ski club for 6 weeks of 4 hours of skiing afternoon into night for $200 each. It’s pretty good for getting them to enjoy winter for what it is.
Or should be, I guess. Snowfall this year has been atrocious. Debating whether to go tonight, because it looks like rain into wintermix snow. Could be okay or could be awful. It’s all manmade snow at this point, but it seems like the grooming machines have made it more tolerable since I was younger.
Obviously we all say this a lot but it is bugging me lately. I think it is better to direct our ire at the greedy human beings ruining things rather than a faceless system doing it, know what I mean? I can think of a number of folks to shoot into the sun in one of the billionaire space capsules.
The results of your system are the point of your system
WHOSE SYSTEM
stop it with the system!! there is no system! It’s just a bunch of people doing shit. Real live humans.
That sounds like a chaotic system.
so direct it towards the literal millions of humans that help the system be shitty?
sounds like a system problem.
crusty thinks we’re running an autonomous anarchist collective.
No you can be far more picky than that. Why are ski resorts expensive? Well, probably big companies buying them up and charging a lot of money for passes. I mean I think amy knows this and her usage of “capitalism” is fine, but my point is it would probably help our mental health if we identified the precise identities of the people doing the bads rather than chalking it up to capitalism as if these folks had no choice in the matter.
the point of the system is to limit the bull shit that we know people will do.
otherwise we wouldn’t need a system
we are just bad at administering the system because the assholes who want to do the nefarious shit also get to be active participants in building the system
Ok so what prompted this is that a couple of weeks ago I was at a university event and a speaker said something about having to do less activism and focus on getting a job that pays the bills because “capitalism.” I’ve kind of been thinking about that ever since. Like no it’s not goddamn capitalism, you can do a lot better fleshing this out, university speaker person.
You can’t oppose some amorphous thing that you can’t even refer to with proper nouns. It’s tilting at windmills.
I used to ride past this all the time: Sharktooth Ski Area
should he have stayed righteous and starved until his economic analysis was up to your high standards?
capitalism is the name we have chosen to give the general collection of levers that we have chosen to apply to shape our economic system.
we can live in the system or we can hobo
the system is defined by it’s results
no one can agree on what results they want and the wise old men don’t know how to redesign the system anyway.
I am fine with still using capitalism in most regards, but this is some pretty shitty strawmaning of his point. I can also see expecting more out of a university speaker than that sort of response. I mean, I would have probably guffawed if I was in the audience to someone saying something that dumb. I mean, are activism and a job the support life mutually exclusive?
Easy enough to point to Aspen and Vail and whatever stupid names their conglomerates have for sucking up all these resorts. Are they partaking in capitalism? Duh. But aren’t some others in Euro-land doing the same but charging far less (even around $25-50 day) because they are all huge conglomerates?
Grass skiing! That’s cool.
The closest abandoned area to me now is “Arapahoe East”.
The property where it once was is for sale… As one or multiple parcels.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1154-S-Grapevine-Rd-Golden-CO-80401/2066807280_zpid/