# Bike blerg thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Bikes\ **Created:** [August 25, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793 "2018-08-25T15:07:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Crustradamus](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/crustradamus/32/7841_2.png) [@Crustradamus](https://tarck.cc/u/Crustradamus)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/101 "2018-09-03T16:56:43Z")
The Apache thing is being handled in an insane way by bike people. The best way to let someone know they are wrong is to scream at them incessantly, curse them and make fun of them, for sure! ---
**Author:** ![nevernotnuts](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/nevernotnuts/32/2269_2.png) [@nevernotnuts](https://tarck.cc/u/nevernotnuts)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/102 "2018-09-03T17:10:32Z")
> [@scott\_dourque](#): > > > [@Face](#): > > > > Who will go beyond posting about this in an obscure fixie forum from 2008? > > Does going to law school with the goal of becoming a public defender count? IMO, 100% You’re right on track. ---
**Author:** ![nevernotnuts](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/nevernotnuts/32/2269_2.png) [@nevernotnuts](https://tarck.cc/u/nevernotnuts)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/103 "2018-09-03T17:11:58Z")
> [@Crustradamus](#): > > The Apache thing is being handled in an insane way by bike people. The best way to let someone know they are wrong is to scream at them incessantly, curse them and make fun of them, for sure! At least now they realize that something is up. > **[After outcry over Apache Bicycles, the Czech bike brand promises changes](https://www.bicycleretailer.com/international/2018/08/30/after-outcry-native-americans-czech-republic-bike-brand-plans-changes)** > > COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (BRAIN) — Apache Bicycles, a 17-year-old bike brand based in the Czech Republic, is planning some changes to its marketing, which outraged many on social media in recent weeks.The company plans to eliminate some model names,... ---
**Author:** ![anon3547885](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@anon3547885](https://tarck.cc/u/anon3547885)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/104 "2018-09-03T20:03:22Z")
Just FYI nevernotnuts is problematic as well for some. > [@LASER\_BEIGE](#): > > I loved my atmos and aeon but I don’t want to NRA so ??? Kask? Limar. Limar forever. Seriously they are great and ultra light. Also they fit closer to the head, avoiding the mushroom head phenomenon for skinny folks. Euro version fits closer than US version. ---
**Author:** ![anon3547885](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@anon3547885](https://tarck.cc/u/anon3547885)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/105 "2018-09-03T20:05:09Z")
> [@Crustradamus](#): > > The Apache thing is being handled in an insane way by bike people. The best way to let someone know they are wrong is to scream at them incessantly, curse them and make fun of them, for sure! The best way of dealing with something like Apache is to laugh at them at make them feel ridiculous. Getting angry may just make them dig in; making them just look like clueless douchebags is far more effective, especially since bike brands rely on being “cool”. ---
**Author:** ![nevernotnuts](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/nevernotnuts/32/2269_2.png) [@nevernotnuts](https://tarck.cc/u/nevernotnuts)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/106 "2018-09-03T21:24:28Z")
> [@anon3547885](#): > > Just FYI nevernotnuts is problematic as well for some. I know. Thank you for saying something. I won’t make assumptions about why you/others might think it’s problematic but for me, I’m not comfortable with how close nevernotnuts treads to Psychiatric Name Calling even though I am certainly in a position to make gentle fun of myself on that front. ---
**Author:** ![anon3547885](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@anon3547885](https://tarck.cc/u/anon3547885)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/107 "2018-09-03T21:34:33Z")
By the way I wrote that but had decided not to post it. But there’s something weird with discourse where it saves old posts in process forever and you can be on a different page and still post on another page. Or whatever, I’m not explaining it well but you all know what I mean. Anyway I don’t need to be throwing stones at anyone. ---
**Author:** ![nevernotnuts](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/nevernotnuts/32/2269_2.png) [@nevernotnuts](https://tarck.cc/u/nevernotnuts)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/108 "2018-09-03T21:39:33Z")
¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ I’m glad you did. If I had some food in my teeth, I’d want my friends to let me know. Same diff IMO. ---
**Author:** ![turpentine](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/turpentine/32/51348_2.png) [@turpentine](https://tarck.cc/u/turpentine)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/109 "2018-09-03T22:50:14Z")
Click the post. Click the trashcan next to reply. Then click yes abandon. ---
**Author:** ![Face](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/face/32/77523_2.png) [@Face](https://tarck.cc/u/Face)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 11:30pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/110 "2018-09-03T23:30:10Z")
> [@nevernotnuts](#): > > food in my teeth I’d just laugh and hope that someone else would say something. Sorrynotsorry ---
**Author:** ![cheese](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/cheese/32/182_2.png) [@cheese](https://tarck.cc/u/cheese)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 5:20am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/111 "2018-09-04T05:20:34Z")
hey turp, I appreciate you providing gentle suggestions on how to best use nütarck in line with discussion. It’s useful and I see you. ---
**Author:** ![Petr5](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/petr5/32/51786_2.png) [@Petr5](https://tarck.cc/u/Petr5)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 6:25am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/112 "2018-09-04T06:25:38Z")
Since we’re talking about it, how has Manitou slid under the radar for so long? ---
**Author:** ![karl\_dandleton](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/karl_dandleton/32/177_2.png) [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 11:20am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/113 "2018-09-04T11:20:28Z")
what did they do? i just went through their site and don’t see anything egregious ---
**Author:** ![Petr5](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/petr5/32/51786_2.png) [@Petr5](https://tarck.cc/u/Petr5)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 11:53am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/114 "2018-09-04T11:53:42Z")
They misappropriated a Native American word for holy spirit into a brand. It’s been used as a name for various places, so there’s wiggle room, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![anon3547885](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@anon3547885](https://tarck.cc/u/anon3547885)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/115 "2018-09-04T13:32:05Z")
Let’s not go too far, every other business in Wisconsin has an native American name because they are named after the town that they are in. Like every business with “Milwaukee” in the name. ---
**Author:** ![spaghetti](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/spaghetti/32/37773_2.png) [@spaghetti](https://tarck.cc/u/spaghetti)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 1:35pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/116 "2018-09-04T13:35:35Z")
yes, sometimes there are a lot of fine lines to consider none of those present in czechia ---
**Author:** ![todd\_bonzalez](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/todd_bonzalez/32/23476_2.png) [@todd\_bonzalez](https://tarck.cc/u/todd_bonzalez)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 1:37pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/117 "2018-09-04T13:37:05Z")
More than half of the states take their name from Native American languages or place names. I think we can forgive a couple of 20-something Czech designers for not understanding the fraught history of Indigenous Peoples’ rights and appropriations in the Americas. ---
**Author:** ![anon3547885](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@anon3547885](https://tarck.cc/u/anon3547885)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 1:39pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/118 "2018-09-04T13:39:37Z")
Yeah I think it is just a matter of the word being used respectfully. ---
**Author:** ![Petr5](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/petr5/32/51786_2.png) [@Petr5](https://tarck.cc/u/Petr5)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 1:47pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/119 "2018-09-04T13:47:35Z")
So what about Apache Bikes is disrespectful\*? \*Save the Pocahotties which I see as more of an exploitation of women more than indigenous cultures. ---
**Author:** ![anon3547885](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@anon3547885](https://tarck.cc/u/anon3547885)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/120 "2018-09-04T13:51:26Z")
Well I could say that leveraging an arguably disadvantaged minority’s culture by people who are not part of that minority for marketing purposes is probably not a good thing. Note that I am differentiating this from, for example, leveraging Irish culture and lepracahns etc for marketing purposes…they are not in any way oppressed so I don’t think anyone gives a fuck about that kind of cultural appropriation. No I am not going to look up how to spell lepracahn [Previous page](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793.md?page=5) [Next page](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793.md?page=7)