# Bike Lanes: Love 'em or Leave 'em

**URL:** <https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945>\
**Category:** Bikes\
**Created:** [July 17, 2008, 2:52am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945 "2008-07-17T02:52:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![teepz](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/teepz/32/25596_2.png) [@teepz](https://tarck.cc/u/teepz)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 6:27am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/22 "2008-07-17T06:27:12Z")

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you guys brought 20 frame pumps on a group ride?

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**Author:** ![grantrules](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/9fc29f/32.png) [@grantrules](https://tarck.cc/u/grantrules)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 6:32am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/23 "2008-07-17T06:32:54Z")

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I bring 20 frame pumps when I’m riding solo, bitches.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Winget](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@Larry\_Winget](https://tarck.cc/u/Larry_Winget)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 7:07am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/24 "2008-07-17T07:07:03Z")

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I don’t go out of my way to use them, but they’re not the devil. If they’re full of idiots I avoid them.

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**Author:** ![tx\_what\_it\_do](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/a88e4f/32.png) [@tx\_what\_it\_do](https://tarck.cc/u/tx_what_it_do)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 8:07am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/25 "2008-07-17T08:07:07Z")

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god i love bike lanes when available. or shoulders. i guess i’m not used to riding in the street yet. people here aren’t nice.

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**Author:** ![damagedtoo](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/9de0a6/32.png) [@damagedtoo](https://tarck.cc/u/damagedtoo)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 8:49am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/26 "2008-07-17T08:49:15Z")

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In Phoenix/Tempe I loved them because unless I was on a residential street it was a recipe to get killed without them. I always give respect to guys willing to ride without them on the major streets. But here in the Chicago area it has been a pain in the ass, I’ve almost been doored about 4 times in as many days and on the side of the road for the bike lane it is just shitty for street conditions (or at least compared to what I’m used to, I may just have to get used to it). Either way I’m way more in favor of taking the lane. Far safer as far as I am concerned, or at least that’s my perception of being tapped on the rear wheel versus sideswiped (I may be way wrong, never had either happen yet thank god).

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**Author:** ![peteis2cool4u](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@peteis2cool4u](https://tarck.cc/u/peteis2cool4u)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 8:49am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/27 "2008-07-17T08:49:36Z")

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> [@tepr](#):
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> you guys brought 20 frame pumps on a group ride?

technically it is the LBS “hard” ride and some times only 2 guys will show up so people generally bring their own stuff because its kind of hit or miss. all 20 or us did not have frame pumps it was probably a little more than half, so i said most because its just a cooler mental image.

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**Author:** ![Cap-Cap](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Cap-Cap](https://tarck.cc/u/Cap-Cap)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 8:55am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/28 "2008-07-17T08:55:52Z")

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so today had to have been one of the worst. almost got hit 3 times, then after polo we were all riding through downtown, with two separate egging incidents, which we attempted to take into our own hands (as well as involving a cop that we happened to run into). what the fuck is going on recently?

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**Author:** ![Patch](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/patch/32/12713_2.png) [@Patch](https://tarck.cc/u/Patch)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 9:03am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/29 "2008-07-17T09:03:56Z")

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people want in on the tarck but can’t type [fixedgeargallery.com](http://fixedgeargallery.com) out right. it’s a long name… i don’t blame 'em. jealousy is all.

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**Author:** ![rhys](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@rhys](https://tarck.cc/u/rhys)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 12:10pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/30 "2008-07-17T12:10:19Z")

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I was confusing bike lanes with bike paths. I hate bike paths, they are always taken up by joggers, who only ever seem to intersect when i’m about to overtake. Bike lanes are ok I guess. I am blessed with 2-car-wide bus lanes for most of my 15-20km journey, and since I leave around 6am theres not too many buses.  
Being car doored is still my main fear though.

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**Author:** ![pirate](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/pirate/32/194_2.png) [@pirate](https://tarck.cc/u/pirate)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 4:20pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/31 "2008-07-17T16:20:49Z")

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I don’t really care either way. If it is convenient to ride in the bike lane, then I’ll use it. If its filled with broken glass, potholes or some jackass in a car trying to be slick and pass traffic, I won’t use it. However, I’ve noticed that bike lanes are pretty unimportant in downtown, but seem more integral to your survival on the big arterial roads in the suburbs, with the high volume of speeding, inept drivers. Unfortunately you can’t really take side streets out there, because they all seem to end in dead ends or cul-de-sacks. What morons design these fucking places?

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**Author:** ![jr1](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@jr1](https://tarck.cc/u/jr1)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/32 "2008-07-17T16:26:00Z")

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In my hometown these are ALWAYS treated as a way to get around cars that are waiting to turn left, and I’m sure that 98% of drivers don’t look before they swerve into them to pass. I’m terrified of most of my hometown’s bike lanes, and would much prefer that they weren’t there to provide the extra room to make drivers want to pass a turning car instead of waiting.

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**Author:** ![room203](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/room203/32/168251_2.png) [@room203](https://tarck.cc/u/room203)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/33 "2008-07-17T22:52:22Z")

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austin was pretty cool with the bike lanes. i highly enjoyed them there.

i have yet to see them in dallas though. denton has them, but only on a couple streets. its really weird.

i’ve also ridden on a ‘freeway’ with cars going 60+ and no shoulder until you get a couple miles out of town. (380 from denton to mckinney and back for any locals)

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> [@pirate](#):
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> I don’t really care either way. If it is convenient to ride in the bike lane, then I’ll use it. If its filled with broken glass, potholes or some jackass in a car trying to be slick and pass traffic, I won’t use it. However, I’ve noticed that bike lanes are pretty unimportant in downtown, but seem more integral to your survival on the big arterial roads in the suburbs, with the high volume of speeding, inept drivers. Unfortunately you can’t really take side streets out there, because they all seem to end in dead ends or cul-de-sacks. What morons design these fucking places?

agreed on all fronts there my friend. sometimes when im in subdivisions its like, why not just live in an apartment complext? it feels basically the same, especially when theyre gated/walled. ridiculous. the street names are always horrible too.

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**Author:** ![pirate](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/pirate/32/194_2.png) [@pirate](https://tarck.cc/u/pirate)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 11:14pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/34 "2008-07-17T23:14:45Z")

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I just don’t get why the developers can’t make one or two of the side streets go longer than 3 or 4 blocks.

At least there are some cool street names in some of the subdivisions out here.

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**Author:** ![stormy](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@stormy](https://tarck.cc/u/stormy)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 3:51am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/35 "2008-07-18T03:51:26Z")

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I will use a bike lane when it’s present, but if not I’m not really stressed and I’ll just keep on doin my thing.

> [@room203](#):
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> agreed on all fronts there my friend. sometimes when im in subdivisions its like, why not just live in an apartment complext? it feels basically the same, especially when theyre gated/walled. ridiculous. the street names are always horrible too.

I once got lost in a subdivision, took me like a half hour to find my way out of that goddamn place, everything looked exactly the same, shit was creepy. I never want to live in one of those places, ugh.

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**Author:** ![robobear](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@robobear](https://tarck.cc/u/robobear)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 4:07am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/36 "2008-07-18T04:07:01Z")

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hey, i live in the suburbs, in a “subdivision” where everything looks the same.  
i don’t have neighbors on top of me, below me and on the other side of the wall, either.  
i can blast my surround sound with the sub at full power at 4am if i want.  
it doesn’t feel “basically the same” as living in an apartment complex.  
i grew up in downtown dallas, and every time i go there, i still get lost.  
…but i will agree about the street names.  
our neighborhood is nothing but streets with the names of texas cities.  
and as much as i love texas, that’s kinda weak.

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**Author:** ![TehScientist](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@TehScientist](https://tarck.cc/u/TehScientist)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 4:22am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/37 "2008-07-18T04:22:08Z")

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yeah I agree on the stereo issue, but I hate fucking living in shithole mormonland utah.

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**Author:** ![Tbirdbassist](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@Tbirdbassist](https://tarck.cc/u/Tbirdbassist)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 4:35am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/38 "2008-07-18T04:35:51Z")

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I use the bike lane sparingly, at best. I rather keeping up with traffic and riding the white lines. Always entertaining to see the looks on drivers/passengers faces when you are next to the window, while you riding the white.

Bike lanes here are on the left side of the street and there are only a few streets that have really nice ones.

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**Author:** ![robobear](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@robobear](https://tarck.cc/u/robobear)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 4:51am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/39 "2008-07-18T04:51:59Z")

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Kudos to everyone that can keep up with traffic on a fucking bicycle. Just about all the streets here are 35mph , and I’m ASSumming that everywhere else its about the same, give or take 5mph. If you guys are seriously riding beside cars and in traffic at that speed, then I obviously need to ride a little harder.

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**Author:** ![Tbirdbassist](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@Tbirdbassist](https://tarck.cc/u/Tbirdbassist)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 5:05am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/40 "2008-07-18T05:05:38Z")

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I guess I should elaborate.

Traffic, in Manhattan at least, is usually at a point where you can be going 15-20mph and be next to peoples windows no problem. Sustaining that I guess depends on the person and the ratio they are running, I run 49:16 so it’s not too difficult for me to keep up at 20mph. But when traffic clears up… 30mph is my breaking point and I move off to the side if I feel cars are passing me a bit too fast.

Though you will probably never see a sign, unless you are looking for one, the speed limit in Manhattan is 30mph. Although the average speed is probably more along 15-20 during the day, rush hours even less.

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**Author:** ![Tail\_Hook\_Lengthener](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/85e7bf/32.png) [@Tail\_Hook\_Lengthener](https://tarck.cc/u/Tail_Hook_Lengthener)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 1:53pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-lanes-love-em-or-leave-em/8945/41 "2008-07-18T13:53:27Z")

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Dude, move the fuck away from suburban Dallas [before it’s too late.](http://www.endofsuburbia.com/)

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