# Bike Products Which Exist, But Which One Wishes Did Not
**URL:** https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582
**Category:** Bikes
**Created:** [August 3, 2018, 12:52pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582 "2018-08-03T12:52:22Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 9
### Author:  [@wickedwagon](https://tarck.cc/u/wickedwagon)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/161 "2019-04-16T14:56:18Z")
I wonder how things like that make it all the way to production. I felt like a fucking idiot when I had to use one of those until I figured out that it’s a terrible design.
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### Author:  [@theKearney](https://tarck.cc/u/theKearney)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 4:40am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/162 "2019-04-17T04:40:17Z")
Huh, I thought it was kinda nice - you just have to pull up to engage it and it turns easily.
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### Author:  [@theKearney](https://tarck.cc/u/theKearney)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 4:42am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/163 "2019-04-17T04:42:33Z")
It’s such a good derailleur for drop bar adventure bikes - it’ll easily do 11-36t with nerd cranks, more than enough range for bikepacking and no need for a goatlink or a tanpan. The clutch makes it really quiet on rough gravel/offroad. It’s probably my favorite bit of componentry in the last year or so.
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### Author:  [@adem](https://tarck.cc/u/adem)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 5:56am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/164 "2019-04-17T05:56:01Z")
> [@theKearney](#):
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> it’ll easily do 11-36t with nerd cranks, more than enough range for bikepacking and no need for a goatlink
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> It’s probably my favorite bit of componentry in the last year or so.
now they just need to offer some fuckin’ nerd cranks to match
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### Author:  [@Blakey](https://tarck.cc/u/Blakey)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 7:14am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/165 "2019-04-17T07:14:33Z")
> [@adem](#):
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> now they just need to offer some fuckin’ nerd cranks to match
> [@Bike blerg thread](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-blerg-thread/21793/2300):
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> Who knows about that new Shimano grav grav group? (GRX Mechs/cranks at least)
still waitin’ on anyone else to leak some info on shimanos nerdcranx
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### Author:  [@adem](https://tarck.cc/u/adem)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 7:29am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/166 "2019-04-17T07:29:19Z")
wait that _wasn’t_ an april fools gag?
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### Author:  [@Blakey](https://tarck.cc/u/Blakey)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 7:39am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/167 "2019-04-17T07:39:26Z")
not as far as I know. New salsa spec, spy shot from LBS.
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### Author:  [@Eddbread](https://tarck.cc/u/Eddbread)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 8:19am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/168 "2019-04-17T08:19:08Z")
Can confirm, clears 40t pie plate nicely, 1000% better shift quality compared when using a tanpan
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### Author:  [@todd\_bonzalez](https://tarck.cc/u/todd_bonzalez)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/169 "2019-04-17T13:21:41Z")
Still not clear on this, myself.
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### Author:  [@cheese](https://tarck.cc/u/cheese)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/170 "2019-04-17T21:26:39Z")
Isn’t it also the missing link that lets you use ultegra shakes and the XT M8000 cassette?
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### Author:  [@Eddbread](https://tarck.cc/u/Eddbread)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2019, 1:18am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/171 "2019-04-18T01:18:15Z")
Yes? also any 105-11sp shakes
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### Author:  [@adem](https://tarck.cc/u/adem)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/172 "2019-04-18T02:58:17Z")
> [@cheese](#):
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> Isn’t it also the missing link that lets you use ultegra shakes and the XT M8000 cassette?
We still talkin’ about the RD-RX800 clutch’d ultegra dangler?
You can use that (or the non-clutch RD-R8000-GS, or the 105 RD-R7000-GS) with the 11-40 cassette. Shimano won’t tell you that you can, but you can. 11-42 is dicey unless you use a wolftooth thinggummy. 11-46 is off the table, as far as I can tell.
You’ve only got 39T of official capacity to play with, so with the 11-40, you’re limited to 10T between chainrings if you want to run a double. With the 11-42, only 8T between chainrings. You can probably push that a little, but note @Eddbread’s report [here](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3095) that trying to push to 45T of capacity (16T between chainrings with the 11-40 cassette) is a no-go.
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### Author:  [@cheese](https://tarck.cc/u/cheese)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2019, 3:51am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/173 "2019-04-18T03:51:38Z")
I was talking about the R8000-GS shadow dangler- but that is good info on the RX800 also.
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### Author:  [@tehschkott](https://tarck.cc/u/tehschkott)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/174 "2019-05-14T14:09:23Z")
HERE YOU GO
[https://kaddyrack.com/](https://kaddyrack.com/)
[https://img1.wsimg.com/isteam/ip/c2b4f643-2c7e-4541-8576-dd8b0e93eec3/cd751690-f1ea-4458-947c-88aa72a37bc7.jpg](https://img1.wsimg.com/isteam/ip/c2b4f643-2c7e-4541-8576-dd8b0e93eec3/cd751690-f1ea-4458-947c-88aa72a37bc7.jpg)
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### Author:  [@Rusty\_Piton](https://tarck.cc/u/Rusty_Piton)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 2:10pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/175 "2019-05-14T14:10:58Z")
Holy shit!
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### Author:  [@tehschkott](https://tarck.cc/u/tehschkott)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/176 "2019-05-14T14:15:04Z")
Man this thing… Makes me sad.
I like how they’ve gone all out. They even have T-shirts and merch at the bottom so you can express your love for this thing.
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### Author:  [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 4:12pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/177 "2019-05-14T16:12:32Z")
surprisingly inexpensive
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### Author:  [@russ](https://tarck.cc/u/russ)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/178 "2019-05-14T17:13:54Z")
most of those bikes suck but this is fuckin legit
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### Author:  [@Timarchylime](https://tarck.cc/u/Timarchylime)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/179 "2019-05-14T17:39:49Z")
Hello, Arkel? Yes, I’d like one of everything, please.
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### Author:  [@Blakey](https://tarck.cc/u/Blakey)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 11:00pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/bike-products-which-exist-but-which-one-wishes-did-not/21582/180 "2019-05-14T23:00:03Z")
Two related max load/flagging bikes from the museum in Osaka:
A Schwinn from bikecentennial and a Japanese dudes round the world Cannondale (bike was replaced halfway through, guess it cracked)
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