[quote=ergott]Get the position of the saddle sorted before anything up front.
I have my own version of the above.
Same thing, pedal up a small grade but ride with no hands and sitting upright (as tall as you can). I’ve also done this on my trainer with a healthy amount of resistance.
Bend from the hips maintaining a straight back until you are in your riding position, still no hands on the bars. I keep bending from the hips until i can’t bring my legs up and over the crank without any impediments (gut, rib cage etc). You will start speeding up which proves your weight is going to the pedals and assisting in putting out power. Shift into a bigger gear accordingly.
If you can hover in place putting out power (I like to use zone 3 power meter geek speak) then the saddle is likely in a good place. Same as what Kirk says, but I like to start from a different position.
Once the saddle is right you can now look at your reach to the bars. You should be able to reach your bars with about a 90deg upper arm with respect to your chest and your elbows bent. If you can’t now figure out your stem/bar/spacers.
All of this is what I strive for with a road fit. For me that means a bike I intend to ride with effort, not dicking around. I find myself pulling on the bars when at full throttle, not holding myself up by my hands at all.[/quote]
ding ding ding
arms should only be supporting their own weight at the pace at which the bike is intended to be ridden.