# Crapbrapping or Pukebacking or Poopbarning
**URL:** https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645
**Category:** Bikes
**Created:** [August 6, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645 "2018-08-06T22:11:17Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@asterisk](https://tarck.cc/u/asterisk)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2021, 4:22am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1650 "2021-07-13T04:22:53Z")
Well, hell. Forest closures for wildfires are prompting some of the folks riding the Oregon Timber Trail to shuttle out. I guess Oregon is going straight to “on fire” instead of at least some summer. The route is also going to be going by a fire that was just found earlier this afternoon south of Detroit Lake…which is along the southern edge of where the larger fires burned last year.
Here’s a write up of some of the rigs folks were taking out this year:
> **[Rigs of the 2021 Oregon Timber Trail - BIKEPACKING.com](https://bikepacking.com/bikes/oregon-timber-trail-rigs-2021/)**
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> We're excited to present the Rigs of the 2021 Oregon Timber Trail! Find photos and details on more than 20 bikes that will be taking on the 540-mile route
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### Author:  [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2021, 5:34am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1651 "2021-07-13T05:34:10Z")
Big fires and smoke have been holding off in NV
Got hit by a midwest-sized thunderstorm too
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### Author:  [@Timarchylime](https://tarck.cc/u/Timarchylime)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 12:31am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1652 "2021-07-19T00:31:53Z")
In the last 30 days, I’ve gone on 4 bike camping trips. Currently on our way to a rad place on an island overlooking the water just north of Tacoma WA. We’re on our second beer en route. The campground itself says it has a strict no alcohol policy. There’s definitely going to be some sock beers happening in a minute.
Edit:
Note the fuzzy Rainier in the background.
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### Author:  [@adem](https://tarck.cc/u/adem)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1653 "2021-09-28T20:32:25Z")
have any of y’all used one of these [frame triangle water tanks](https://adventurehydration.com/) and/or have any hot takes? I’m currently just strapping 1.5L HDPE nalgenes all over the bike but thinking about how to make the setup less clunky.
I know the popular solution is “big bladder in a full frame bag”, but A) I hate tetris-ing stuff into a full frame bag, and B) I’ve seen one too many bladders punctured inside a framebag. By “one too many” I mean just once, but way out in the desert, and that was one too many for me.
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### Author:  [@rabbi](https://tarck.cc/u/rabbi)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1654 "2021-09-28T20:43:10Z")
I have been eyeing one of these as well. Makes a lot more sense than having 4 1L nalgenes or whatever.
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### Author:  [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1655 "2021-09-28T20:44:52Z")
I have one, I like the idea but it rubs on my calves. The clever thing about it is it uses a silicone duckbill valve as a breather valve in the cap.
Going further on the concept, I ended up using a narrower 1 gallon HDPE F-type jug in my frame bag instead with my own 3d printed cap with breather valve, then got rid of the hose and cap, and then lately just stacking in a bunch of 1L Smartwater bottles like a gun magazine.
You can borrow it if you want to check it out\*. My wife might use it for her desert fatbike but seemed suspicious about the concept.
\* there should be an S24O (or maybe more like sub-36) opportunity to test it out in the Black Rock desert later this month if you want to test it out in-situ
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### Author:  [@adem](https://tarck.cc/u/adem)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2021, 8:47pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1656 "2021-09-28T20:47:56Z")
> [@drwelby](#):
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> I like the idea but it rubs on my calves.
yeah I was wondering about that. The bike it’s gonna go on isn’t a low-Q dork crank, but it’s also not super wide either. Non-boost chainline.
> [@drwelby](#):
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> later this month
I’m assuming you mean sometime in october, not within the next three days. Lemme know the details! I’m doing a big roadtrip in mid october but would love to show up if I can make the scheduling work out.
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### Author:  [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2021, 8:50pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1657 "2021-09-28T20:50:21Z")
yeah, October. I’ll let you know when we have the date set.
all are welcome, should be an 80 mile round trip overnighter on the playa
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### Author:  [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1658 "2021-09-28T20:53:54Z")
I asked the AH guy if he was going to make a narrower one and he had thought about it. I’m not sure if the 3L one is narrower or not.
It’s not especially wide either - my pedalling stance is narrow and I will rub my knees or calves on anything wide, but unfortunately it’s a deal-killer.
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### Author:  [@adem](https://tarck.cc/u/adem)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1659 "2021-09-28T21:05:51Z")
[Claims](https://adventurehydration.com/product/water-storage-solutions-for-bikepackers-adventure-and-touring-cyclists-cranktank3/) to be a hair narrower
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### Author:  [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1660 "2021-09-28T21:08:34Z")
Is it just me or does it look like that bottle is 3d-printed?
edit: probably just a prototype
edit edit: tl;dr
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### Author:  [@adem](https://tarck.cc/u/adem)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1661 "2021-09-28T21:27:06Z")
the description says that the photos are of a “pre-production model” (AKA yeah probably a 3D-print fit check mockup). pre-order only, they haven’t shipped it yet
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### Author:  [@Rent-to-own-Faxmachine](https://tarck.cc/u/Rent-to-own-Faxmachine)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2021, 9:28pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1662 "2021-09-28T21:28:45Z")
> **[Frame Pack Hydration Bladder (1.5L) | Apidura](https://www.apidura.com/shop/frame-pack-hydration-bladder/)**
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> The Frame Pack Hydration Bladder is a convenient solution for carrying water when you don’t have space for bottle cages in your bike’s main triangle
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### Author:  [@jimmythefly](https://tarck.cc/u/jimmythefly)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2021, 6:23am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1663 "2021-09-29T06:23:26Z")
I’ve not tested it in a frame bag with water, but a couple of moto guys I know would use the bladder from a large starbucks coffee to go box for transporting gasoline, strapped to the back of a bike.
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### Author:  [@adem](https://tarck.cc/u/adem)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2021, 7:25am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1664 "2021-09-29T07:25:23Z")
box wine bladder 🤔
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### Author:  [@Crustradamus](https://tarck.cc/u/Crustradamus)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2021, 1:33pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1665 "2021-09-29T13:33:01Z")
Yeah I’m gonna vote for “bladder inside frame bag”. Done weeks of combined time bikepacking with such a setup. It is protected from punctures pretty darn well in your bag. And your water stays cool!!
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### Author:  [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2021, 2:08pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1666 "2021-09-29T14:08:08Z")
yeah no, I’ve also punctured a bladder
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### Author:  [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2021, 2:11pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1667 "2021-09-29T14:11:34Z")
Sawyer now has a 1 gallon soft container, and I saw these this weekend: 
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### Author:  [@Crustradamus](https://tarck.cc/u/Crustradamus)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2021, 2:15pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1668 "2021-09-29T14:15:26Z")
Really confused by the anti-bladder sentiment here while y’all post bladders. IMO that hard plastic stuff is the worst version of the soft liquid bag.
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### Author:  [@asterisk](https://tarck.cc/u/asterisk)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2021, 2:18pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/crapbrapping-or-pukebacking-or-poopbarning/21645/1669 "2021-09-29T14:18:04Z")
What if you put the bladder in a cordura bag that collapsed with the bladder as it empties? Not fixing it to the bag allows you to continue to use the space but protects the delicious ~~boxed wine~~ water.
I had a frame bag with separate compartments and it sort of limited the use of the whole bag as needs changed.
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