# Dickaleurs
**URL:** https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800
**Category:** Bikes
**Created:** [August 26, 2018, 11:39am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800 "2018-08-26T11:39:42Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 2
### Author:  [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/21 "2018-09-03T20:06:01Z")
yeah but i don’t think any of my wholesale accounts have it and i’m broke AF. just gonna wait to find some on the cheap or whatever
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### Author:  [@Blakey](https://tarck.cc/u/Blakey)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/22 "2018-09-03T21:56:00Z")
Contact the distro or a shop that sells a lot. Chances are they have warranty returns you can scavenge from. That’s how I got my short rails.
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### Author:  [@Rusty\_Piton](https://tarck.cc/u/Rusty_Piton)
#### Post date: [September 4, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/23 "2018-09-04T14:02:55Z")
I installed the TiCycles dickaleur last night. It seems to work well, holds the bag steady. My only complaint is that the Ortlieb hooks are a little tall for the Orkbag that’s on this bike. I might try them on my Ozzette instead.
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### Author:  [@Andrew\_Squirrel](https://tarck.cc/u/Andrew_Squirrel)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2019, 4:45am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/24 "2019-01-01T04:45:21Z")
I swung by 333Fab shop a couple weeks ago to get a tour and check in with [Max](https://www.instagram.com/333fabmax/) to see how he is doing. He is getting treatment for his cancer in January so I thought he could use some cash flow for the upcoming lull in business as he recovers. Picked up his super elegant 31.8mm [decaleur](https://333fab.com/shop/air-land-sea-swift-industries-paloma-bar-bag-buffalo-plaid-ltd7e-8tf84) solution for my Elephant and I absolutely love it.
I took a bunch of photos during the install process and some dithering about which way to use the clamp.
[Here is Full album](https://www.flickr.com/photos/andy_squirrel/albums/72157703749238291) of all the decaleurs I’ve messed with.
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### Author:  [@Andrew\_Squirrel](https://tarck.cc/u/Andrew_Squirrel)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2019, 4:47am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/25 "2019-01-01T04:47:38Z")
It’s also interesting to compare the weight differences.
Note that the 333Fab weight includes the stem faceplate bolts that are removed when the Berthoud extra long faceplate bolts are used.
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### Author:  [@Orc](https://tarck.cc/u/Orc)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2019, 4:58am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/26 "2019-01-01T04:58:06Z")
> [@Eddbread](#):
>
> Someone get the dockit dickaleur and report back
(several months later)
I didn’t get one (since I don’t use decaleurs) but Mark G (of decaleur and raleigh 650bification fame) played around with one and didn’t like it because it didn’t resist bag flop at all.
This was on a typical toy-sized rando rack with the bag hanging over the sides of the rack; it might not suck so much on a properly wide rack where the bag can’t flop off the side of the rack if it’s restrained, but I’d imagine the bag would rotate sideways around the bayonet and end off pointing down and either to the left or to the right when a corner slides off the edge of the rack and all the rando crap in it sags it down.
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### Author:  [@anon71759125](https://tarck.cc/u/anon71759125)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/27 "2019-01-01T15:34:25Z")
Didn’t pass the gugie test
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### Author:  [@drandalls](https://tarck.cc/u/drandalls)
#### Post date: [January 1, 2019, 4:15pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/28 "2019-01-01T16:15:48Z")
Dockit was always dumb, the inception thread was packed with such stupidity I’m amazed it ended up a semi-legitimate product.
Bike product has marketing as “reimagined” = it’s crap.
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### Author:  [@Jacobell](https://tarck.cc/u/Jacobell)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/29 "2019-01-02T22:47:07Z")
Was just typing out a long post with the convoluted method I was going to try to use for a diy dickaleur, but then found these:
> **[Amazon.com: Lightronic Roll Bar Mount 0.75" 1" 1.25" Horizontal Bull Bar Clamp Led Light Bar Mounting Brackets For UTV Light Bar Led Tube Clamp Roof Roll Cage Holder: Automotive](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M3P2DVY/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B01M3P2DVY&pd_rd_w=GIZCC&pf_rd_p=f0dedbe2-13c8-4136-a746-4398ed93cf0f&pd_rd_wg=FPLIl&pf_rd_r=5E1CDFHPA74QVH8S0ZRR&pd_rd_r=20ae2f0a-0ee0-11e9-8294-95edd00b392e)**
Edit:
Even more useful…
> **[Amazon.com: Xprite Aluminum 1.25" Inch Adjustable Bull Bar Grill Grille Guard Top Rack Roll Cage Tube Mounting Clamp Holder for LED Work Light Bar: Automotive](https://www.amazon.com/Xprite-Aluminum-Adjustable-Grille-Mounting/dp/B01HYLROR4/ref=sr_1_21?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1546469386&sr=1-21&keywords=1.25+roll+bar+clamp)**
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### Author:  [@Orc](https://tarck.cc/u/Orc)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/30 "2019-01-02T22:56:19Z")
Oh, geez, those are ugly. If your DIY efforts use those, please let me make one for you instead.
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### Author:  [@drandalls](https://tarck.cc/u/drandalls)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2019, 11:14pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/31 "2019-01-02T23:14:15Z")
I used two of these sourced cheap from aliexpress for my DIY decauler. The gopro attachment part is held on with two m4 screws so once removed it opens up mounting ~60mm below the center of the handlebar. I used aluminum plate inserts cut with keymod style holes to engage standoff screws in the gopro mount. Bag was clipped in at the front then slotted into the rear and held down with integral button snap. Worked fine, was a much larger time investment than I anticipated.
> **[Amazon.com : VVHOOY Aluminum Bike Bicycle Motorcycle Handlebar Mount Adapter Compatible with Gopro Hero 7/6/5 Session/4/AKASO Brave 4/5/v50/EK7000/YI Discovery/Campark/Crosstour 1080P&4K Action Camera : Camera & Photo](https://www.amazon.com/VVHOOY-Motorcycle-Handlebar-Compatible-Discovery/dp/B07FCK7KV2/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1546470482&sr=8-19&keywords=gopro+handlebar+mount+31.8)**
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### Author:  [@Jacobell](https://tarck.cc/u/Jacobell)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/32 "2019-01-04T22:23:41Z")
Those go pro mounts are nice looking.
Gonna try this thing out I made from a steerer bell mount and some rack struts.
EDIT: success! Wish it was a little more laterally stiff but for $0 I can’t complain.
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### Author:  [@jeffro](https://tarck.cc/u/jeffro)
#### Post date: [January 9, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/33 "2019-01-09T00:57:48Z")
0 dollars is best dollars
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### Author:  [@LASER\_BEIGE](https://tarck.cc/u/LASER_BEIGE)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/34 "2019-01-31T18:32:18Z")
What is the Tarck approved dickalwur right now?
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### Author:  [@Orc](https://tarck.cc/u/Orc)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/35 "2019-01-31T18:45:47Z")
A rack that’s wide enough to support the bag without it falling off to one side or the other?
A mgugie-style V-decaleur with a rail sized to fit ortloeb bag clamps is your best bet if you have a quill stem or put spacers under your threadless stem.
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### Author:  [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)
#### Post date: [March 11, 2019, 1:51am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/36 "2019-03-11T01:51:43Z")
is there an “ideal” height for an ortlieb rail for a dickleur? id assume that if the flap and pockets (if applicable) allow, about Z=+3/4B where B is bag height and Z follows the same axis that my body is on, but i’ve never set up a proper rando bag properly so before i melt and drill…
despite the fact that the drive spindle on a bike is parallel with the ground and oriented 90\* to the direction of usual travel, id say that the human dictates the axes, but i’d love for @drwelby to let me know what’s what. does the fork steerer become the spindle?
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### Author:  [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)
#### Post date: [March 11, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/37 "2019-03-11T02:34:13Z")
As high as you get it on the bag without jamming up the rear flap, so Z \< B - (F + (o/2)) where o is the clip height.
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### Author:  [@Face](https://tarck.cc/u/Face)
#### Post date: [March 11, 2019, 3:35am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/38 "2019-03-11T03:35:37Z")
Can we settle this once and for all?
X axis: stem length
Z axis: bar width
Y axis: rusty stack height
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### Author:  [@Eddbread](https://tarck.cc/u/Eddbread)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2019, 4:58am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/39 "2019-08-08T04:58:58Z")
Hello, missed this one:
> **[Prototype Decaleur — Norther cycles](https://northercycles.squarespace.com/shop/cd6dwww054s4hjfdhm7q6v764wmzm8)**
>
> Small batch prototype decaleur for threadless four bolt face plate stems. They are spring loaded and quick release. They have a laser cut polished stainless bag side that has three bolt holes to mount to your bag, and two slots that allows you to...
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### Author:  [@sleve\_mcdichael](https://tarck.cc/u/sleve_mcdichael)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2019, 6:34am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/40 "2019-08-08T06:34:22Z")
hmmmmmm, what looks like brazing standard compressed air fittings to some cut up bolts, then using them to hold your stem together, what could go wrong? (well temper embrittlement for one).
Note it really depends on the materials involved, stainless fasteners might just soften a bit, but yeah
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