# Dickaleurs
**URL:** https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800
**Category:** Bikes
**Created:** [August 26, 2018, 11:39am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800 "2018-08-26T11:39:42Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 4
### Author:  [@russ](https://tarck.cc/u/russ)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2020, 3:15am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/61 "2020-04-01T03:15:57Z")
> [@karl\_dandleton](#):
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> they do! but it probably isn’t what you’re hoping for.
yeah plastic drills are a little different, but your much bigger problem will be keeping everything straight & centered while trying to do very asymmetric work. Sandpaper on a stick is a good idea. Not having enough material left is a legit concern. The non-sliding part is a great candidate for a 3D printed part since it is almost entirely in compression, and it looks like you can make all the compensation you need in that part. The tabs that hold the rail on the sliding part would make me nervous in an FDM print.
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### Author:  [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2020, 4:27am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/62 "2020-04-01T04:27:16Z")
seems the non sliding part is what really needs the embiggening.
i’ve oft wondered if this is something i could make in my crummy basement shop out of aluminum. and i’m pretty sure i would fully just end up wasting aluminum trying. but it might be fun.
i guess i could get some nylon stock and try to make it from that… then i’d just be wasting nylon. which might not be any if at all cheaper…
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### Author:  [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2020, 4:45am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/63 "2020-04-01T04:45:35Z")
not with that attitude. got high and walked the dog and i think i might know how i can do this. gonna get some materials and see where this quarantine takes me
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### Author:  [@Andrew\_Andeson](https://tarck.cc/u/Andrew_Andeson)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2020, 4:57am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/64 "2020-04-01T04:57:59Z")
> [@Andrew\_Squirrel](#):
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> Are Grand Bois exactly the same? I am not very good at internet right now apparently.
After looking for a while at your pics, and not looking at all at my own bag, yes. I bet RaClips is a US rebrand or something.
The grand bois were actually fun to buy because I had to use a Japanese website and google translate, and then i got a cool catalog with my clips (if you like grand boisish stuff). But being able to order them from the usa is great and i don’t know if id have a rando bag without them now.
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### Author:  [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2020, 4:43am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/65 "2020-04-02T04:43:31Z")
> [@russ](#):
>
> …ed while trying to do very asymmetric work. Sandpaper on a stick is a good idea. Not having enough material left is a legit concern. The non-sliding part is a great candidate for a 3D printed part since it is almost entirely in compression, and it looks like you can make all the compensation you need in that part. The tabs that hold the rail on the sliding part would make me nervous in an FDM print.
the real question now is how do i do detents. i have some ideas on how to spend at least as much and waste a ton of time to make a sub par product, but so far i’m stumped on how to add the detents in some crudely shaped bars of nylon that slide against one another
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### Author:  [@Andrew\_Squirrel](https://tarck.cc/u/Andrew_Squirrel)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2021, 6:34pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/66 "2021-06-10T18:34:05Z")
Finally gave up on my XL Swift Ozette’s bottom velcro straps and now living the double-decaleur life. Previously had just the 333fab handlebar mounted decaleur but recently found these KLICKfix Rixen & Kaul Locking Twist Pannier Hooks RKLG801 for the base. Unfortunately they fit 12mm tubing sans spacer and 6mm with spacer so the 10mm tubing on my CycleFab porteur rack was going to rattle. I used some coarse files and snips to cut down the spacer and then glued it in place since friction fit wasn’t very secure. Also it didn’t come with any mounting hardware so picked up some 4mm countersunk head hex bolts from Tacoma Screw and used a 5/16 drill bit to create a countersunk hole so as not to scratch up the rack every time I slid it on. The hooks have a nice positive clicking sound to let you know they’ve engaged. $20 shipped is well worth never having to have this huge bag bounce around on the trail after the weak velcro gives up.
[Full Photo Album Here](https://www.flickr.com/photos/andy_squirrel/albums/72157703749238291)
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### Author:  [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2021, 1:06am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/67 "2021-06-11T01:06:21Z")
Every time I see an update in this thread, I know it’s going to be fire
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### Author:  [@jimmythefly](https://tarck.cc/u/jimmythefly)
#### Post date: [November 23, 2021, 11:53pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/68 "2021-11-23T23:53:52Z")
@Master_Stabby
> [@Did you just ShartQ?](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/15812):
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> Alright you bike wizards, what’s the best decaleur? Need something cheapish, lightish, and available and able to work with a 90mm normie stem and some 1.25" bars.
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> I’m leaning towards a vo setup but it’s 80mm long and I don’t really wanna throw spacers on it
How crafty do you want to get, and do you care about clearance on the tops of the bars for your fingers?
Ultimate cheap is scavenge a couple of blinky light brackets for the bars, and disassemble the light housing to use part of that screwed to your bag for the other half. Viola built in quick release function.
Otherwise I’d go for one of the many Amazon/Ebay/Aliexpress “accessory holder” bracket and tube assemblies. Downsize the tube to something that works with Ortlieb hooks that you mount on the bag side.
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### Author:  [@Master\_Stabby](https://tarck.cc/u/Master_Stabby)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2021, 12:16am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/69 "2021-11-24T00:16:40Z")
something that works out of the box with minimal faffing about is pretty much my speed.
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### Author:  [@earwig](https://tarck.cc/u/earwig)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2021, 12:16am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/70 "2021-11-24T00:16:46Z")
For completeness, I think the off-the-shelf decaleur options are the following:
- [VO](https://velo-orange.com/collections/rack-hardware-and-accessories/products/vo-decaleur-reciever-5mm-posts) (will eventually break where the spacer is welded to the tube)
- [Berthoud](https://berthoudcycles.fr/en/882-gb-decaleur-stainless-steel-ah-50.html) (eventually wiggle loose, but with enough locktite they’re fine)
- [Nitto](https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/18714-nitto-zao-decaleur-for-technomics-ntc-dx-stem-3789?category=819) (for gooseneck stem)
- [Nitto](https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-fw-20-decaleur.html) (yikes)
- [Rene Herse](https://www.renehersecycles.com/product-category/components/stems-decaleurs/) (for maximal reenactment)
- [Tanaka](https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/18721-tanaka-decaleur-shim-for-quill-stem-3937?category=819) (looks like it will shake itself loose immediately)
- [Waxwing Dockit](https://www.waxwingbagco.com/dock-ittrade.html) (looks clever, pricy, and I’m unclear how well it stabilizes the bag along all axes)
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### Author:  [@earwig](https://tarck.cc/u/earwig)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2021, 12:21am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/71 "2021-11-24T00:21:08Z")
One more. This is the more refined version of @jimmythefly’s scavenged light brackets. For $40, that seems pretty great. It just doesn’t give much flexibility on the distance between the bar and the bag.
> **[CAMPESTRAL // 31.8 DECALEUR — REN CYCLES](https://www.rencycles.com/store/campestral-318-decaleur)**
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> PRODUCT DETAILS :: CLAMP DIAMETER: 31.8mm :: EXTENSION: 22mm :: BOLT MATERIAL: Stainless Steel :: BAG SUPPORT BAR MATERIAL: Stainless Steel :: BAG SUPPORT BAR DIAMETER: 8mm :: HANDLEBAR CLAMP WIDTH = 12mm :: 22.2/26.0 SHIM CLAMP WIDTH = 20mm ...
Edit: better link that has info about an extension kit.
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### Author:  [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2021, 12:59am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/72 "2021-11-24T00:59:01Z")
I fondled a Dockit, it’s sturdy but you need a solid back plate on your bag.
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### Author:  [@Master\_Stabby](https://tarck.cc/u/Master_Stabby)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2021, 2:48am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/73 "2021-11-24T02:48:23Z")
Huh, that one looks nice, but you have to use ortlieb hooks or something?
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### Author:  [@earwig](https://tarck.cc/u/earwig)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2021, 3:01am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/74 "2021-11-24T03:01:02Z")
Yes. Ortlieb hooks mounted to the bag. Looks like the [hooks](https://ortliebusa.com/product/ql1-top-hooks-with-inserts-e162/) and [rail](https://ortliebusa.com/product/ql1-short-top-rail-e170/) would set you back another $21.
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### Author:  [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2021, 12:55pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/75 "2021-11-24T12:55:13Z")
i really like the ortlieb QL decaleur. super secure, easy on off
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### Author:  [@paris](https://tarck.cc/u/paris)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2021, 1:20pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/76 "2021-11-24T13:20:32Z")
> [@karl\_dandleton](#):
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> ortlieb QL decaleur: super secure, easy on off
I can confirm this!
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### Author:  [@frank\_doktor](https://tarck.cc/u/frank_doktor)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2021, 3:06pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/77 "2021-11-24T15:06:29Z")
Except when you bolt it on upside down. But I haven’t had to take it off yet.
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### Author:  [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/78 "2021-11-24T15:45:35Z")
squirrel doubled it up and i want to follow that path. restrap bag has a not great implementation of those fidlock joints
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### Author:  [@Shiny\_squid\_green](https://tarck.cc/u/Shiny_squid_green)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2021, 4:57pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/79 "2021-11-24T16:57:34Z")
My VO works, but I have 2 issues.
1. The extension between the head tube and where it hooks up to the bag is too short, so my bag sits at a jaunty angle
2. Fit isn’t that tight at bag to decaleur mount, so I have ended up running a velcro strap to tighten it up. It was so rattly it was driving me crazy. Makes the bag a pain in the ass to remove.
\*grain of salt time: this is on a Riv, so 1" threaded and aspiring for looks over performance a bit. Eventually I’ll chase the custom rabbithole route
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### Author:  [@Bootus](https://tarck.cc/u/Bootus)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2021, 5:05pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/dickaleurs/21800/80 "2021-11-24T17:05:10Z")
333Fab and Ti Cycles both sold decaleurs, but both look to be no longer available new.
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