# Did you just ShartQ?

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**Category:** Bikes\
**Created:** [August 1, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23 "2018-08-01T02:31:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Eddbread](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Eddbread](https://tarck.cc/u/Eddbread)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3075 "2019-04-11T01:02:49Z")

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NFE v.2 TA + custom tubes = 2700 bongs?

\*edit omg

_“If you want a specific brand of tubing, let us know and we’ll quote you a price. Expect to add about $200 to the cost of a frame.”_ So 1485 + 250 - 300

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**Author:** ![Eddbread](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Eddbread](https://tarck.cc/u/Eddbread)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3076 "2019-04-11T01:05:11Z")

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only clears a 48 or maaaybeee… 2.1 w/o fenders? .7/.4/.7 TT and basic butts? not sure about about noddleness of stays, I am curious crust?

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**Author:** ![sparksflyhigh](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/sparksflyhigh/32/661_2.png) [@sparksflyhigh](https://tarck.cc/u/sparksflyhigh)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3077 "2019-04-11T01:06:49Z")

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Get the bmc road bike or soma es, or the mr pink if you want a carbon fork. No other options come to mind in the frame only category

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**Author:** ![Orc](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/orc/32/2244_2.png) [@Orc](https://tarck.cc/u/Orc)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3078 "2019-04-11T01:15:10Z")

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> [@iwillbe](#):
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> **… not wearing out rims …**

This. It doesn’t matter so much with 700c, because there’s a wide selection of adequate to good rims available, but if you’re doing something boutique like 650b basically _everything_ is eyepoppingly expensive and you want to keep from grinding dollar bills off your rims and depositing them on the highway.

(file this under “do as I say, not as I do”.)

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**Author:** ![anon71759125](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@anon71759125](https://tarck.cc/u/anon71759125)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:22am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3079 "2019-04-11T01:22:50Z")

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Yep I’ll look at Soma es again. It does not come with a fork so carbon is an option

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**Author:** ![iwillbe](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/iwillbe/32/1896_2.png) [@iwillbe](https://tarck.cc/u/iwillbe)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 2:12am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3080 "2019-04-11T02:12:59Z")

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yeah, but it’s still time out of my life to rebuild wheels, and you can get into funkier rim shapes with disc. I think we’re basically agreeing here, as far as road bikes go

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**Author:** ![bward1028](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@bward1028](https://tarck.cc/u/bward1028)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 2:59am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3081 "2019-04-11T02:59:34Z")

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I mean, I can adjust some canti brakes to give you an unearthly tone if you’d like.

My go-to at the bike shop for squeaky brakes was always, “So you want me to make them louder for you, right?”

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**Author:** ![iwillbe](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/iwillbe/32/1896_2.png) [@iwillbe](https://tarck.cc/u/iwillbe)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 3:06am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3082 "2019-04-11T03:06:44Z")

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why not a Fogcutter?

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**Author:** ![Alvz](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@Alvz](https://tarck.cc/u/Alvz)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 4:38am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3083 "2019-04-11T04:38:21Z")

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[bmc teammachine alr](https://us-en.bmc-switzerland.com/models/road/teammachine-alr-disc.html). threaded bb, lightweight frame and full carbon fork. disc frame will have clearance for a 28c easily, looks like more. rim brake def fits a 28c.

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**Author:** ![anon71759125](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@anon71759125](https://tarck.cc/u/anon71759125)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 10:19am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3084 "2019-04-11T10:19:06Z")

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My ideal budget is $500 frameset.

Ive done some good riding on my older Bob Jackson that comfortably fit 32mm but I rode it with 28mm for some time. I kind of doubt that an aluminum rocket would ride as nice. Am I wrong?

That’s the reason for minimum 28mm, ideal would be 30-32mm

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**Author:** ![dotMR](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/dotmr/32/640_2.png) [@dotMR](https://tarck.cc/u/dotMR)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 10:22am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3085 "2019-04-11T10:22:48Z")

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> [@Eddbread](#):
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> NFE v.2 TA + custom tubes

Has anyone ridden both stock NFE and an ultralight? Maybe @Andrew_Squirrel?

Curious if the difference is noticeable

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**Author:** ![Kryptotal\_Bogan](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/kryptotal_bogan/32/47139_2.png) [@Kryptotal\_Bogan](https://tarck.cc/u/Kryptotal_Bogan)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 11:14am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3086 "2019-04-11T11:14:43Z")

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wasn’t fred’s OG nfe made from wigglier toobs?

i love my caad10 and nothing anyone can say will change my mind

i think 28s fit just but i’m running 25s at the moment

i ride this thing every day and it is nice and goes fast

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**Author:** ![anon71759125](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@anon71759125](https://tarck.cc/u/anon71759125)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 11:20am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3087 "2019-04-11T11:20:43Z")

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Your roads are smoother than Michigan.

> **[Michigan has worst roads in U.S., study says](https://www.mlive.com/news/2019/01/michigan-has-worst-roads-in-us-study-says.html)**
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> Here’s something you’ve probably heard before. Michigan’s roads are terrible.

I like this but it’s expensive

> **[All-City Mr. Pink Frameset](https://www.maddogcycles.com/product/all-city-mr.-pink-frameset-343607-1.htm?variations=3222090,3222091&gclid=CjwKCAjwy7vlBRACEiwAZvdx9p8bsxS6uyDkzF6_I8M2E2MCOWAAlw_bjj8OdawR1ox_3c8l9gwM4BoCqRAQAvD_BwE)**
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> Tarmac or gravel, skinny tires or fat, fenders or not, stripped down and wicked fast or geared up for the long haul: Mr. Pink is your ticket to the party, no matter what road you take to get there....

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**Author:** ![drwelby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/drwelby/32/142_2.png) [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 12:57pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3088 "2019-04-11T12:57:30Z")

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What about the other BMC? The Black Mountain Cycles road frame is $550 and uses standard reach brakes.

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**Author:** ![anon71759125](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@anon71759125](https://tarck.cc/u/anon71759125)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3089 "2019-04-11T13:08:15Z")

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Yeah, thats also there in the running but Im not sure about the color.  
Then there of course were opinions how thats not necessarily a nice frame if youre a tubing nerd (OS tubes)

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**Author:** ![drwelby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/drwelby/32/142_2.png) [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3090 "2019-04-11T13:34:23Z")

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Anything $500 new is going to be OS.

I’d say find a 10+ year old weight weenie road frame and run 650b PariMotos on it.

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**Author:** ![drwelby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/drwelby/32/142_2.png) [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3091 "2019-04-11T13:47:12Z")

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I just remembered the bike for you:

Giant OCR. Standard reach brakes and alu or composite frames. There’s a pile of the on the 'bay.

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**Author:** ![iwillbe](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/iwillbe/32/1896_2.png) [@iwillbe](https://tarck.cc/u/iwillbe)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 2:49pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3092 "2019-04-11T14:49:37Z")

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@anon71759125

Ok let’s bring this back down to a couple of simpler questions:

is this about wanting an Allez Sprint you happened to notice, or is it about wanting an alu road bike more generally?

does this bike need to be comfortable for all day riding, or do you have other bikes for that?

Is there a reason you don’t want a stock bike?

Have you tried a road bike with 25-28mm tubeless tires as a way of getting a plusher ride out of a tighter frame?

I’m all for dithering, but I’ve gotten a little confused about what you’re atually looking for here

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**Author:** ![sparksflyhigh](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/sparksflyhigh/32/661_2.png) [@sparksflyhigh](https://tarck.cc/u/sparksflyhigh)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3093 "2019-04-11T15:12:23Z")

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Igor needs his own dithering thread

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**Author:** ![jdsmooth](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jdsmooth/32/610_2.png) [@jdsmooth](https://tarck.cc/u/jdsmooth)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3094 "2019-04-11T15:49:44Z")

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> [@Kryptotal\_Bogan](#):
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> i love my caad10 and nothing anyone can say will change my mind
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> i think 28s fit just but i’m running 25s at the moment

arguably the best bang-for buck ~~road~~ race bike  
28 pro-ones barely fit in mine. luv it.

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