# Did you just ShartQ?

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**Category:** Bikes\
**Created:** [August 1, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23 "2018-08-01T02:31:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LASER\_BEIGE](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/laser_beige/32/152421_2.png) [@LASER\_BEIGE](https://tarck.cc/u/LASER_BEIGE)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 11:12pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3135 "2019-04-11T23:12:23Z")

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Whatever cheapass bars are free or in your parts bin?

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**Author:** ![Bootus](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/bootus/32/110971_2.png) [@Bootus](https://tarck.cc/u/Bootus)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3136 "2019-04-11T23:24:03Z")

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> [@BicyclePears](#):
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> 680mm nitto risey fellas or these 666 crunch bars with unshellacky newbums?

Need more info, need to match a ti chairpole?

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**Author:** ![anon71759125](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@anon71759125](https://tarck.cc/u/anon71759125)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 11:43pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3137 "2019-04-11T23:43:08Z")

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> **[Crit D Road Framset (Black Tan)](http://engine11.bigcartel.com/product/crit-d-road-framset-ocean-blue)**
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> 2018 CritD Road frameset in Black Tan color way. Made out of 6069 aluminum with triple butted finish for light weight yet offering outstanding...

Hmmmmm

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**Author:** ![Eddbread](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Eddbread](https://tarck.cc/u/Eddbread)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 11:50pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3138 "2019-04-11T23:50:44Z")

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Was that patois?

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**Author:** ![Eddbread](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Eddbread](https://tarck.cc/u/Eddbread)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 11:55pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3139 "2019-04-11T23:55:30Z")

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Yes is true, but poopbarning?

I’m considering going back to 10sp. What’s that go to setup that doesn’t suck a massive fuck again?

I was running  
Shakes: ST-5700  
Pieplate: 11-42t 10sp  
Dangler: RD-M6000  
Adaptor: wolftooth tanpan  
Turdly shifting overall

Keep in mind I prefer a clutch dangler (maybe that’s my problem)

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**Author:** ![adem](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/adem/32/2176_2.png) [@adem](https://tarck.cc/u/adem)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3140 "2019-04-12T00:50:06Z")

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> [@Eddbread](#):
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> I was running  
> Shakes: ST-5700  
> Pieplate: 11-42t 10sp  
> Dangler: RD-M6000  
> Adaptor: wolftooth tanpan  
> Turdly shifting overall

That’s probably the 10-speed cable-under-the-bar-tape shakes you can blame for the turdly shiftnig. 2.3mm of cable pull per shift is not a lot. It worked _okay_ for road bikes, but once you start getting everything gritty and grungy while poopbarning… nope.jpg

There’s a reason 10-speed MTB was put on a different cable pull.

> [@Eddbread](#):
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> I just wasted an 1 hour of my life fucking around with a RX800 dangler, paired with a brand new ST-5800 shake.

Folx like to run that RX800 dangler you have with 11-40 cassettes (or 11-42 with a wolftooth thinggummy), but only with 1x. As you’ve discovered, it doesn’t have the capacity to run a big pie plate + 2x up front.

Unless you wanna run a tanpan + MTB dangler, I think you should just make peace with the fact that the you shouldn’t crosschain 28/11 and live with it.

You _could_ try the M6000 cage swap for shiggles - eyeballing the parts pdfs on [si.shimano.com](http://si.shimano.com), it looks like a plausible swap. I say this as a person who is currently riding a 6400 Ultegra aero short cage on a Deore LX M560 derailleur body.

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**Author:** ![asterisk](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/asterisk/32/84135_2.png) [@asterisk](https://tarck.cc/u/asterisk)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 1:16am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3141 "2019-04-12T01:16:54Z")

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All this talk of 2000s alu race bikes reminded me of GVHBikes. It was a webstore run by a guy on the Oregon coast who imported all sorts of weird Euro frames… aluminum Cinellis, Viners, Looks, Mosers, etc.

Apparently someone’s still running it and they still have the weird mis-mash of frame inventory:  
[http://www.gvhbikes.com/inventory.html](http://www.gvhbikes.com/inventory.html)

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**Author:** ![iwillbe](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/iwillbe/32/1896_2.png) [@iwillbe](https://tarck.cc/u/iwillbe)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3142 "2019-04-12T01:32:05Z")

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Them, red rose, Gita… I spent a fair bit of the start of the 2000’s poring over all those grainy, minimally legible websites.

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**Author:** ![EndpointBraden](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/endpointbraden/32/22101_2.png) [@EndpointBraden](https://tarck.cc/u/EndpointBraden)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3143 "2019-04-12T01:56:22Z")

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Red Rose was rad. Carrera were legit rad. Had customer years ago that had a custom steel and custom titanium one. Both were incredible.

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**Author:** ![drwelby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/drwelby/32/142_2.png) [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3144 "2019-04-12T02:32:25Z")

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> [@Eddbread](#):
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> Was that patois?

[![](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/7/f/7f334c0a218b9094b568e702b6ae9a0f329ace26.jpeg "George Bush Taxes Cold Opening - SNL") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8jiBKWRWeg)

M6000 GS has a chain capacity of 41 so you still won’t take up all the chain. for a difference of 2 teeth it’s not worth the cage swap unless you really like dithering.

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**Author:** ![Eddbread](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Eddbread](https://tarck.cc/u/Eddbread)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3145 "2019-04-12T02:35:55Z")

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M6000 SGS btw

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**Author:** ![iwillbe](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/iwillbe/32/1896_2.png) [@iwillbe](https://tarck.cc/u/iwillbe)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 2:36am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3146 "2019-04-12T02:36:37Z")

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Most of those brands were out of Billato, right? I had an alu Cramerotti from them, full custom at a minimal upcharge

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**Author:** ![drwelby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/drwelby/32/142_2.png) [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3147 "2019-04-12T02:37:02Z")

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SGS is 43 so you’re still under spec…

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**Author:** ![wickedwagon](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/wickedwagon/32/170051_2.png) [@wickedwagon](https://tarck.cc/u/wickedwagon)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3148 "2019-04-12T02:40:45Z")

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To space out flatmount discs will any washer work? I have 160 rotors and adapters, but the pads still aren’t clamping where they should be.

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**Author:** ![EndpointBraden](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/endpointbraden/32/22101_2.png) [@EndpointBraden](https://tarck.cc/u/EndpointBraden)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 10:23am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3149 "2019-04-12T10:23:50Z")

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I think so.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 10:27am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3150 "2019-04-12T10:27:29Z")

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Are you sure? Unless the rotor is kissing the top of the caliper it’s probably fine.

I’ve definitely seen some weird rotor shapes that at first appear to be wrong somehow but when I look inside the caliper the pad surface is all being contacted under braking.

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**Author:** ![anon71759125](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@anon71759125](https://tarck.cc/u/anon71759125)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 10:38am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3151 "2019-04-12T10:38:47Z")

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Is it me or are Richey road logic frames expensive?

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**Author:** ![turpentine](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/turpentine/32/51348_2.png) [@turpentine](https://tarck.cc/u/turpentine)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 1:30pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3152 "2019-04-12T13:30:29Z")

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They are expensive.

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**Author:** ![todd\_bonzalez](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/todd_bonzalez/32/23476_2.png) [@todd\_bonzalez](https://tarck.cc/u/todd_bonzalez)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 1:35pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3153 "2019-04-12T13:35:01Z")

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I believe that they are among the only steel frame makers not using bog-standard OS tubing, hence the price

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**Author:** ![anon71759125](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@anon71759125](https://tarck.cc/u/anon71759125)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3154 "2019-04-12T13:45:21Z")

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Fair point. It’d be a contender in the 600-800$ cost…

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