# Did you just ShartQ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Bikes\ **Created:** [August 1, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23 "2018-08-01T02:31:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 158
**Author:** ![iwillbe](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/iwillbe/32/1896_2.png) [@iwillbe](https://tarck.cc/u/iwillbe)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3155 "2019-04-12T14:16:47Z")
$1200 is not expensive for a new steel frameset - Gunnar charges about $1300 for a similar frame, and the fork is another $600 if you want Enve. It looks as if they were selling completes with a 105 group for $1800. That’s not a bad deal at all. I mean, expensive is a relative term - you can definitely get a Schwinn Varsity from your local thrift shop and with like $50 in parts from your local co-op have a bike that you can ride for years, right? ---
**Author:** ![anon71759125](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@anon71759125](https://tarck.cc/u/anon71759125)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3156 "2019-04-12T14:17:36Z")
Yeah thats def true, it’s all relative. Is Ritchey the only off the rack non OS frame out there? im sure the answer is somewhere in the realm of yes ---
**Author:** ![drwelby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/drwelby/32/142_2.png) [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3157 "2019-04-12T14:25:13Z")
> [@anon71759125](#): > > Is Ritchey the only off the rack non OS frame out there? Judging by the miters against the seat collar and the head tube it looks like single OS. ---
**Author:** ![jdsmooth](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jdsmooth/32/610_2.png) [@jdsmooth](https://tarck.cc/u/jdsmooth)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3158 "2019-04-12T14:40:34Z")
it’s that straight-up dope shit to the trunkrack rando boiz ![image](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/2X/5/570dc8a9fbdf6e0d18b6300e3ba6fa67c20ec256.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![jdsmooth](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jdsmooth/32/610_2.png) [@jdsmooth](https://tarck.cc/u/jdsmooth)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3159 "2019-04-12T14:43:58Z")
> [@adem](#): > > You _could_ try the M6000 cage swap for shiggles - eyeballing the parts pdfs on [si.shimano.com](http://si.shimano.com), it looks like a plausible swap. I say this as a person who is currently riding a 6400 Ultegra aero short cage on a Deore LX M560 derailleur body. you need to start a dangler phreaking thread ---
**Author:** ![todd\_bonzalez](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/todd_bonzalez/32/23476_2.png) [@todd\_bonzalez](https://tarck.cc/u/todd_bonzalez)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3160 "2019-04-12T15:04:38Z")
There are probably some other options out there, but I think that the Ritchey is the only one which you could walk into a bike shop today and order, and have by the end of next week. ---
**Author:** ![anon71759125](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@anon71759125](https://tarck.cc/u/anon71759125)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3161 "2019-04-12T15:13:42Z")
damn i hate not having a good idea for a frame in mind. The frames from Gunnar/Waterford (via Ben’s) is the best deal for a made in USA right now but still 6 weeks out ---
**Author:** ![jdsmooth](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jdsmooth/32/610_2.png) [@jdsmooth](https://tarck.cc/u/jdsmooth)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 3:28pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3162 "2019-04-12T15:28:00Z")
good thing you have a ton of bikes already 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![bward1028](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@bward1028](https://tarck.cc/u/bward1028)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3163 "2019-04-12T16:16:53Z")
SQ: I want new tires, bigger than 700x45mm. I really want something like Big Apples, but without the weight penalty. What exists? I’m looking at these x’plor ones, because i’ve been happy with their other tires in the past, maybe also Schwalbe G One in 29x2"? ![](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/2X/0/03727797bbdbc8b8438a18c9d7ca2afbec306a70.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![drandalls](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/drandalls/32/2911_2.png) [@drandalls](https://tarck.cc/u/drandalls)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3164 "2019-04-12T17:10:15Z")
Does anyone have experience with Shimano M-System housing? [This stuff.](https://www.amazon.com/Shimano-M-Sys-Brake-Housing-M-System/dp/B005DTRMSQ/) Specifically for mech discs like Spyres. Nashbar doesn’t sell their cheap KEB-SL rebrand anymore and I’m looking for a replacement. There’s one thread on MTBR about the housing but that’s it. ---
**Author:** ![karl\_dandleton](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/karl_dandleton/32/177_2.png) [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3165 "2019-04-12T17:28:28Z")
I think the m-system has a bit more compression than regular. not sure where i “remember” that from though ---
**Author:** ![wickedwagon](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/wickedwagon/32/170051_2.png) [@wickedwagon](https://tarck.cc/u/wickedwagon)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3166 "2019-04-12T18:36:07Z")
I’ll check when I’m home to be sure, but the pads is grabbing low on the rotor, below the intended braking surface. The only thing I notice is the fork, full carbon, shudders when when braking except under full power. ---
**Author:** ![ThurberMingus](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/thurbermingus/32/165_2.png) [@ThurberMingus](https://tarck.cc/u/ThurberMingus)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3167 "2019-04-12T18:49:42Z")
I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure there were some 2018 Roubaixs running Spyres with M System housing. I certainly wouldn’t go out of my way for that combo… ---
**Author:** ![anon71759125](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@anon71759125](https://tarck.cc/u/anon71759125)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3168 "2019-04-12T19:36:35Z")
runny arse ---
**Author:** ![karl\_dandleton](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/karl_dandleton/32/177_2.png) [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3169 "2019-04-12T19:39:18Z")
Or maybe it was that it provides “more modulation” at the lever. I dunno. Don’t listen to me because I don’t know what im talking about. ---
**Author:** ![bward1028](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@bward1028](https://tarck.cc/u/bward1028)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3170 "2019-04-12T19:52:44Z")
Ew. I don’t really want to give jan any money. seems like i’m going to go with the Schwalbes. ---
**Author:** ![igor](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/igor/32/21023_2.png) [@igor](https://tarck.cc/u/igor)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3171 "2019-04-12T19:55:37Z")
Schwalbe Thunderbutts are good ---
**Author:** ![drwelby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/drwelby/32/142_2.png) [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3172 "2019-04-12T20:07:44Z")
> [@bward1028](#): > > SQ: I want new tires, bigger than 700x45mm. ![](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/2X/c/c2b1c4c07659b10d8045be7954ab5dff45b045e1.jpeg) Teravail Sparwood? ---
**Author:** ![igor](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/igor/32/21023_2.png) [@igor](https://tarck.cc/u/igor)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3173 "2019-04-12T20:21:54Z")
I’ve handled a few different teravail tires and have been impressed. 650b and 700x38 Ramparts and the Coronados have all been great. ---
**Author:** ![dotMR](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/dotmr/32/640_2.png) [@dotMR](https://tarck.cc/u/dotMR)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23/3174 "2019-04-12T20:30:21Z")
> [@todd\_bonzalez](#): > > There are probably some other options out there, but I think that the Ritchey is the only one which you could walk into a bike shop today and order, and have by the end of next week. Thought I saw somewhere that Ritchey was offering 15% off frames ordered direct from their website? Can’t recall where though… Edit: [Friday Roundup: Local Loam Texas, ride Scratch Ankle, Ritchey deal & more! - Bikerumor](https://bikerumor.com/2019/04/05/friday-roundup-local-loam-texas-ride-scratch-ankle-ritchey-deal-more/) [Previous page](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23.md?page=157) [Next page](https://tarck.cc/t/did-you-just-shartq/23.md?page=159)