# Framebuildin' part 3
**URL:** https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778
**Category:** Bikes
**Created:** [March 4, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778 "2010-03-04T01:21:54Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 205
### Author:  [@turpencat](https://tarck.cc/u/turpencat)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4081 "2016-05-19T15:22:21Z")
I really like true temper. They were dickiw at nahbs. HJ doesn’t stock nearly as much stuff as nova. Even though their tubing is better it kinda stinks you still need to do a seperate order somewhere else for all the little crap.
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### Author:  [@Eric\_Estlund](https://tarck.cc/u/Eric_Estlund)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2016, 1:22pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4082 "2016-05-26T13:22:39Z")
This seat tube is the only TT one in this bike: we’ll be ok.
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### Author:  [@hiljentaa](https://tarck.cc/u/hiljentaa)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2016, 1:26pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4083 "2016-05-26T13:26:03Z")
Wishboner? Lemme see dat.
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### Author:  [@Eric\_Estlund](https://tarck.cc/u/Eric_Estlund)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4084 "2016-05-26T21:32:50Z")
I lied, the steerer is also TT.
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### Author:  [@turpencat](https://tarck.cc/u/turpencat)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2016, 2:39am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4085 "2016-05-27T02:39:00Z")
dat bikes got a butt
bath time
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### Author:  [@Whippin\_Skidz](https://tarck.cc/u/Whippin_Skidz)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2016, 6:32am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4086 "2016-05-27T06:32:42Z")
[quote=Eric Estlund] 
I lied, the steerer is also TT.[/quote]
That fork is beautiful.
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### Author:  [@Eric\_Estlund](https://tarck.cc/u/Eric_Estlund)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4087 "2016-05-27T13:01:15Z")
I have hot/ cold valve envy.
Thanks- trying to keep the lug cuts stylish but conservative on this one.
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### Author:  [@turpencat](https://tarck.cc/u/turpencat)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2016, 1:41pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4088 "2016-05-27T13:41:00Z")
[quote=Eric Estlund]I have hot/ cold valve envy.
[/quote]
you shouldn’t.
they both leak.
I close them with a peening hammer
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### Author:  [@Eric\_Estlund](https://tarck.cc/u/Eric_Estlund)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2016, 2:06pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4089 "2016-05-27T14:06:53Z")
The hard close. Sweet. You’d leak a little if you were 100 years old, too.
I added a flickr album with some shots of that bike under construction. [Luchtreiziger](https://www.flickr.com/photos/22538785@N05/albums/72157668958217905)
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### Author:  [@rancid\_burple](https://tarck.cc/u/rancid_burple)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2016, 3:43pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4090 "2016-05-27T15:43:40Z")
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### Author:  [@Eric\_Estlund](https://tarck.cc/u/Eric_Estlund)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4091 "2016-05-27T15:48:37Z")
Which is cuter- the little heart or the wittle vise?
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### Author:  [@NOVELTYNAME](https://tarck.cc/u/NOVELTYNAME)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4092 "2016-05-27T16:22:46Z")
eric did your bikes turn german when you moved to pennsylvania or wat
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### Author:  [@rancid\_burple](https://tarck.cc/u/rancid_burple)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4093 "2016-05-27T17:25:00Z")
Vice is small but it works.
Gonna get a bigger one, and put it somewhere where I get at it from 3 sides, when I reno the garage.
Is there a trick with those number/letter punches? I seem to be be pretty bad with them.
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### Author:  [@Eric\_Estlund](https://tarck.cc/u/Eric_Estlund)
#### Post date: [June 8, 2016, 2:27pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4094 "2016-06-08T14:27:07Z")
Ha- that’s Dutch. Hell, it might be German, too- I’m beholden to Google Translate.
A little more from the brasserie-
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### Author:  [@rancid\_burple](https://tarck.cc/u/rancid_burple)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4095 "2016-06-09T02:13:38Z")
And now for some ugly stuff:
Trying to get a feel for this stuff, not easy.
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### Author:  [@Eric\_Estlund](https://tarck.cc/u/Eric_Estlund)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4096 "2016-06-09T20:14:02Z")
Are you just running a bead? Try on some wider material. That stuff is all edges and will heat up/ loose heat quickly. A little less edge and a little more thermal mass will help slow things down a bit (on both the heating and cooling). Might be easier to get constant results.
Made this one today:
Bunch of process and finished shots on IG and Flickr.
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### Author:  [@rancid\_burple](https://tarck.cc/u/rancid_burple)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2016, 2:51am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4097 "2016-06-10T02:51:47Z")
Yeah I was trying to just run a bead and then I tried doing some “towers”.
I went back in the shop tonight I tried my hand at a joint again. I was surprised to find that those exercises last night really seemed to help. Much easier to build up the fillet to a consistent size. I did find that sometimes I would really get rolling and easily melt the rod into the puddle and move along at a constant speed then things would get stuck and just couldn’t keep the puddle liquid. Smaller tip seemed to help too.
Two pieces of 1 1/4" 0.035" 4130 with a 90deg miter.
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### Author:  [@turpencat](https://tarck.cc/u/turpencat)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2016, 3:11pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4098 "2016-06-10T15:11:29Z")
I bought a box of 4130 scraps from aircraft spruce and put them all together. I went from total garbage to… ok yeah this joint looks good most the way around.
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### Author:  [@rancid\_burple](https://tarck.cc/u/rancid_burple)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4099 "2016-06-10T15:48:00Z")
Yeah that’s pretty much what I’m doing. Got the grab bag deal of 1ft scraps and then I just got like 6ft each of 0.035 in 1", 1 1/8" and 1 1/4".
I also ordered a bunch of the cycle design lfb and flux. Looking forward to using that stuff because the flux I have now is terrible. I mean it works but It’s hard to mix with water and get the right consistency and it just does not soak off like at all.
Are you on oxy-propane Jordan? I am and I’m using a #2 tip. Took me about 15min or maybe more to do the two passes on that joint, too long? I get kinda nervous when things are hot like that for so long…
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### Author:  [@Eric\_Estlund](https://tarck.cc/u/Eric_Estlund)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2016, 3:56pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/framebuildin-part-3/16778/4100 "2016-06-10T15:56:39Z")
First off- why two passes?
Second- 15m is a long time. It’s practice, so it’s not big deal, but including preheat I’m only at a joint for a few minutes. Most of which is pre-heating.
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