# Help me out if you dont mind. **URL:** \ **Category:** Bikes\ **Created:** [July 5, 2009, 7:56pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303 "2009-07-05T19:56:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![why](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/4bbf92/32.png) [@why](https://tarck.cc/u/why)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 2:52am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/21 "2009-07-06T02:52:07Z")
> [@itschrisb](#): > > I like the older classic look over the modern Look i disagree atmo ![](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/3/0/305abea11a36852b6e604288bb8cc1fc440c0a4b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![itschrisb](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/9e8a1a/32.png) [@itschrisb](https://tarck.cc/u/itschrisb)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 2:58am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/22 "2009-07-06T02:58:20Z")
I’m not asking you or anyone at all what bike is the coolest, this will be my 3rd bike bc so far I hVent been satisfied with the two I’ve had. I’m finally trying to find a bike I’m going to satisfied with in comfort, durability, yea style does matter to me and to everyone otherwise every company wouldn’t be coming out with flashy colors. I’m mainly assking in suggestions from people who have had the bikes, knows someone, or has knowledge about them. Along with the components used on them. ---
**Author:** ![why](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/4bbf92/32.png) [@why](https://tarck.cc/u/why)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:11am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/23 "2009-07-06T03:11:48Z")
> [@itschrisb](#): > > I’m mainly assking but we hardly know each other you solicited my advice it went as follows: “buy a frigging windsor the hour that’s gonna fit ya” ---
**Author:** ![itschrisb](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/9e8a1a/32.png) [@itschrisb](https://tarck.cc/u/itschrisb)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/24 "2009-07-06T03:20:16Z")
Okay thanks for the suggestion I’ll take it into consideration I appreciate your opinion but there’s no reason for you to make it seem like I’m strictly buying this bike to be cool. I wanna upgrade from my Windsor with a better bike. If no bikes are better or an upgrade from all the BD bikes thn what’s the point of all these companies. I didn’t realize I wasn’t allowed to ride a higher quality bike for whatever reason. Why is it you suggest just getting a smaller Windsor? ---
**Author:** ![why](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/4bbf92/32.png) [@why](https://tarck.cc/u/why)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:28am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/25 "2009-07-06T03:28:29Z")
> [@](#): > > there’s no reason for you to make it seem like I’m strictly buying this bike to be cool > [@](#): > > If no bikes are better or an upgrade from all the BD bikes thn what’s the point of all these companies. think about these statements together > [@](#): > > Why is it you suggest just getting a smaller Windsor? because it’s a good deal, because you haven’t mentioned anything else you’d want in a bike except “better” ---
**Author:** ![itschrisb](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/9e8a1a/32.png) [@itschrisb](https://tarck.cc/u/itschrisb)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/26 "2009-07-06T03:42:10Z")
Okay well again like I said thanks I’ll take what you have said into consideration. I appreciate you being straight forward with me but at the sMe time you don’t have to make me seem like an idiot and such. If it comes down to it ill either get a smaller Windsor or go to the bike island kilo TT bc I like the tighter geo alittle more from riding my friends. ---
**Author:** ![why](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/4bbf92/32.png) [@why](https://tarck.cc/u/why)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:45am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/27 "2009-07-06T03:45:57Z")
> [@itschrisb](#): > > I like the tighter geo alittle more from riding my friends. what is meant by “geo” in this context? ---
**Author:** ![RJ1](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/rj1/32/24102_2.png) [@RJ1](https://tarck.cc/u/RJ1)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/28 "2009-07-06T03:47:43Z")
Maybe we could provide a link to bikeforums at the top of the main page. All in favor? ---
**Author:** ![itschrisb](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/9e8a1a/32.png) [@itschrisb](https://tarck.cc/u/itschrisb)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/29 "2009-07-06T03:50:51Z")
I’m looking for a bike that I’m not gunna have to worry about having to make upgrades to after having it a few months. Such as new cranksets, stems, seats, pedals, bars, wheelsets. So yea frame wise staying with a Windsor probably not a bad idea at all but component wise getting another Windsor I’m actually back pedaling in my progress. Maybe I’m being stuborn bc I do indeed want a newer nice bike aesthetics and performance. ---
**Author:** ![itschrisb](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/9e8a1a/32.png) [@itschrisb](https://tarck.cc/u/itschrisb)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:52am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/30 "2009-07-06T03:52:31Z")
Geometry? ---
**Author:** ![why](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/4bbf92/32.png) [@why](https://tarck.cc/u/why)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 3:54am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/31 "2009-07-06T03:54:17Z")
what about it? ---
**Author:** ![itschrisb](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/9e8a1a/32.png) [@itschrisb](https://tarck.cc/u/itschrisb)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 4:02am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/32 "2009-07-06T04:02:53Z")
Just forget about it. The arguement is over there is no point in it it’s proving nothing at all. You know more than me I’m an idiot. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![asterisk](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/asterisk/32/84135_2.png) [@asterisk](https://tarck.cc/u/asterisk)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/33 "2009-07-06T04:24:51Z")
Consider the following: - You are using this to commute… a rack would be nice - You say roads are bad… look for something that’ll take at least 25, preferably something larger. - Have you ridden a frame closer to your correct size? Narrow down a better size before blindly purchasing another frame on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![hambeki](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/f475e1/32.png) [@hambeki](https://tarck.cc/u/hambeki)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 5:49am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/34 "2009-07-06T05:49:55Z")
You should look into the Electra line. I heard that you can get one in flat black. ---
**Author:** ![itschrisb](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/9e8a1a/32.png) [@itschrisb](https://tarck.cc/u/itschrisb)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 9:59am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/35 "2009-07-06T09:59:32Z")
Don’t really like flat black at all, although I’m sure if I get that and murder it out I’ll go super fast. As far as a rack goes I usually just put everything in a backpack but it might be easier to use a rack. I think all the bikes I picked except atleast at 28 tire ---
**Author:** ![e11](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/e11/32/4403_2.png) [@e11](https://tarck.cc/u/e11)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 11:07am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/36 "2009-07-06T11:07:26Z")
> [@itschrisb](#): > > Don’t really like flat black at all, although I’m sure if I get that and murder it out I’ll go super fast. ---
**Author:** ![Dickason\_Daniel](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/dickason_daniel/32/13099_2.png) [@Dickason\_Daniel](https://tarck.cc/u/Dickason_Daniel)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 1:21pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/37 "2009-07-06T13:21:53Z")
> [@itschrisb](#): > > I’m looking for a bike that I’m not gunna have to worry about having to make upgrades to after having it a few months. Such as new cranksets, stems, seats, pedals, bars, wheelsets. > [@bonechilling](#): > > The KHS Flite 100 is the same thing as the Kilo TT, only spec’ed slightly differently. If I were just getting started and wanted a track bike for street use, I’d buy a Kilo TT Pro and be done with it. > [@R.J.](#): > > Maybe we could provide a sign that says, ‘LISTEN TO BONECHILLING!’ at the top of the main page. All in favor? ---
**Author:** ![Rusty\_Piton](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/rusty_piton/32/579_2.png) [@Rusty\_Piton](https://tarck.cc/u/Rusty_Piton)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/38 "2009-07-06T13:31:44Z")
What size do you need? I’ve got a 56 steamroller frame/fork/headset/bb for sale. Cheap! ---
**Author:** ![Dickason\_Daniel](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/dickason_daniel/32/13099_2.png) [@Dickason\_Daniel](https://tarck.cc/u/Dickason_Daniel)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 1:52pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/39 "2009-07-06T13:52:57Z")
does grindmaster know 'bout this? ---
**Author:** ![itschrisb](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/9e8a1a/32.png) [@itschrisb](https://tarck.cc/u/itschrisb)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 2:19pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303/40 "2009-07-06T14:19:10Z")
[quote=Rusty Piton]What size do you need? I’ve got a 56 steamroller frame/fork/headset/bb for sale. Cheap![/quote] 56 for the steamroller is to big for me I need a 53 otherwise Id be into it. I’m considering the Kilo TT Pro actually bc it is the cheapest which is good in my book. Either that or the IRO I haven’t quite decided yet. [Previous page](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303.md?page=1) [Next page](https://tarck.cc/t/help-me-out-if-you-dont-mind/14303.md?page=3)