# Hey, what's your Sundeal? **URL:** \ **Category:** Bikes\ **Created:** [August 8, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666 "2018-08-08T20:19:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 68
**Author:** ![Master\_Stabby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/master_stabby/32/39791_2.png) [@Master\_Stabby](https://tarck.cc/u/Master_Stabby)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 4:52am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1344 "2023-03-19T04:52:33Z")
The wheels are v smol so your big cog doesn’t need to be as big. You can use a normal cage derder unless you plan on trying to climb 70% grades or something. ---
**Author:** ![Timarchylime](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/timarchylime/32/61940_2.png) [@Timarchylime](https://tarck.cc/u/Timarchylime)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 4:58am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1345 "2023-03-19T04:58:21Z")
I did a tail hook lengthener and it was ok but the shifting was crap. Having the detailer close to the ground wasn’t a big deal unless you right really close to a curb on the wrong side of the street. My current issue is with long fenders. The velo orange ones I have catch curbs if I don’t lift the front wheel when riding over them. It’s been an issue multiple times in the last year. ---
**Author:** ![Bootus](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/bootus/32/110971_2.png) [@Bootus](https://tarck.cc/u/Bootus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 1:57pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1346 "2023-03-19T13:57:45Z")
> [@Jacobell](#): > > As far as I can tell, the swift is not Amtrak compatible > > Also I’m starting to dither on this Bike Friday I’m gonna get. Has anyone run a shimano 12sp mtb derailleur on a 20” wheel? What 1x wide range derailleurs have y’all had luck with? What size cassette are you thinking of running? ---
**Author:** ![Jacobell](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jacobell/32/895_2.png) [@Jacobell](https://tarck.cc/u/Jacobell)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 2:32pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1347 "2023-03-19T14:32:44Z")
Thinking something like a 42 x 11-36. Microshift does the 38t cassette with their small wheel group. Just think it would be fun to use something much more Gucci. ---
**Author:** ![Bootus](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/bootus/32/110971_2.png) [@Bootus](https://tarck.cc/u/Bootus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1348 "2023-03-19T14:49:07Z")
The version of the Zee dangler rated for a 36T cassette would probably work pretty great there, just gucci instead of Gucci. I had an 11-36 9 speed cassette on my Katu with a 48T ring and it worked pretty well. Plans were to put a Zee on it, just didn’t happen before that bike got downsized. ---
**Author:** ![LASER\_BEIGE](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/laser_beige/32/152421_2.png) [@LASER\_BEIGE](https://tarck.cc/u/LASER_BEIGE)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 5:03pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1349 "2023-03-19T17:03:12Z")
If I were smallbiking it I’d do something like a 48x11-34 and use a normal 105 pusherdangler. If I wanted to ball a lil harder then rival. This is a flat bar bike? ---
**Author:** ![yonderboy](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/yonderboy/32/159376_2.png) [@yonderboy](https://tarck.cc/u/yonderboy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1350 "2023-03-19T20:13:17Z")
With a 20" wheel, 1:1 will get you roughly the same gearing as a 34x51 on a 29". ---
**Author:** ![Jacobell](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jacobell/32/895_2.png) [@Jacobell](https://tarck.cc/u/Jacobell)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 8:41pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1351 "2023-03-19T20:41:09Z")
I like low gears Kinda want to do rival axs derailleur/cassette with a gx axs shifter. Would be pretty hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![JUGE\_FREDD](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/juge_fredd/32/34623_2.png) [@JUGE\_FREDD](https://tarck.cc/u/JUGE_FREDD)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 9:30pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1352 "2023-03-20T21:30:56Z")
the key clearance is between the lower cage pulley and the sidewall of the tire/rim, as it projects down between around 4 o’clock thru 7 o’clock on the wheel they will eventually collide if the biggest cog is too far inboard, with too many teeth, and too wide of a rear tire this is one of the reasons for “8 of 10” drivetrains like Box Four Prime 9 or SRAM EX1; there’s also a bunch of “9 of 11” sets from Box, Microshift, and now Shimano CUES just making the chainline narrower and further out buys a lot, as does keeping the biggest cog to around ~42t max with matching chain capacity in the dangler cage ---
**Author:** ![Jacobell](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jacobell/32/895_2.png) [@Jacobell](https://tarck.cc/u/Jacobell)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1353 "2023-03-20T22:21:31Z")
Big help, thanks. Think I’ll go with Zee. Rival AXS would be really cool but this is also a bike that I want to fold up and throw places so maybe the fancy pants stuff can wait for another build. ---
**Author:** ![JUGE\_FREDD](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/juge_fredd/32/34623_2.png) [@JUGE\_FREDD](https://tarck.cc/u/JUGE_FREDD)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 10:27pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1354 "2023-03-20T22:27:42Z")
BOX is pretty cheap, it also pops up on eBay a bunch > **[BOX Four Prime 9 Groupset - 8-Speed](https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=103100)** > > BOX Four Prime 9 Groupset - 8-Speed :: From $166.99 :: BOX MTB Drivetrain Build Kits ---
**Author:** ![jame5on](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jame5on/32/81952_2.png) [@jame5on](https://tarck.cc/u/jame5on)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 10:49pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1355 "2023-03-20T22:49:50Z")
They names the 8 speed group ‘9’!? ---
**Author:** ![JUGE\_FREDD](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/juge_fredd/32/34623_2.png) [@JUGE\_FREDD](https://tarck.cc/u/JUGE_FREDD)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1356 "2023-03-21T00:15:05Z")
along with several other irrelevant numeric identifiers in the name! ---
**Author:** ![VT\_regularbike](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/vt_regularbike/32/153_2.png) [@VT\_regularbike](https://tarck.cc/u/VT_regularbike)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2023, 1:01am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1357 "2023-03-21T01:01:08Z")
> [@Timarchylime](#): > > …I did a tail hook lengthener and it was ok but the shifting was crap. Having the detailer close to the ground wasn’t a big deal unless you right really close to a curb on the wrong side of the street.My current issue is with long fenders. The velo orange ones I have catch curbs if I don’t lift the front wheel when riding over them. It’s been an issue multiple times in the last year. You just gotta bunny hop the whole curb. ---
**Author:** ![ProCracknfailBro](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/procracknfailbro/32/103324_2.png) [@ProCracknfailBro](https://tarck.cc/u/ProCracknfailBro)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2023, 10:42pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1358 "2023-03-21T22:42:44Z")
> [@oogens](#): > > Bring back the hooligan Say it again, mortal ![image](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/1/7/178de14b2a18fe2fd93e5460b4d31ee4b21273d8.jpeg) ![image](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/f/2/f2a1ffc1442de2e4e6320e1ca4f23b225de2d3f4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![karl\_dandleton](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/karl_dandleton/32/177_2.png) [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1359 "2023-03-22T00:00:04Z")
THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO ON A TOPSTONE NEO ---
**Author:** ![karl\_dandleton](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/karl_dandleton/32/177_2.png) [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1360 "2023-03-22T00:00:25Z")
but thanks, i love it. ---
**Author:** ![Jacobell](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jacobell/32/895_2.png) [@Jacobell](https://tarck.cc/u/Jacobell)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1361 "2023-03-22T01:10:34Z")
But what seatpost is that ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Stabby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/master_stabby/32/39791_2.png) [@Master\_Stabby](https://tarck.cc/u/Master_Stabby)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 1:35am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1362 "2023-03-22T01:35:48Z")
> [@ProCracknfailBro](#): > > Say it again, mortal I hope you ride that around the office instead of walking ---
**Author:** ![ProCracknfailBro](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/procracknfailbro/32/103324_2.png) [@ProCracknfailBro](https://tarck.cc/u/ProCracknfailBro)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 12:43pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/hey-whats-your-sundeal/21666/1364 "2023-03-22T12:43:24Z")
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