# Is there a wheelbuilding thread yet?
**URL:** https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898
**Category:** Bikes
**Created:** [September 12, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898 "2018-09-12T01:26:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 132
### Author:  [@halbritt](https://tarck.cc/u/halbritt)
#### Post date: [August 9, 2024, 7:56pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2628 "2024-08-09T19:56:19Z")
I use Tesa 4288 and order off eBay. Pretty sure that’s the specific tape Light Bicycle recommended. There are several others with similar material properties though.
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### Author:  [@jame5on](https://tarck.cc/u/jame5on)
#### Post date: [August 9, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2629 "2024-08-09T20:24:20Z")
[quote=“halbritt, post:2628, topic:21898”]
There are hundreds of others with similar material properties though.
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### Author:  [@Face](https://tarck.cc/u/Face)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2024, 5:36pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2630 "2024-08-11T17:36:43Z")
Lol I asked my buddy what tape he uses and he says hold on a sec and comes back with a stack of spools of DT tape and gives them all to me, so I guess I don’t need the Tessa stuff now 😂
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### Author:  [@Rusty\_Piton](https://tarck.cc/u/Rusty_Piton)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2024, 3:47pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2631 "2024-08-15T15:47:01Z")
I got a couple of these Ryde rims from the nude beach because a bunch of old-head wheel builders on the facebook wheel building group recommended them to me to replace my cracked Ryno Lite (which I’m still riding). They do indeed seem like very nice, very beefy rims. The nipple holes are nicely chamfered to match the spoke angles. I have high hopes that I can build a wheel with this rim that’ll last more than a year under my bakfiets. My only complaint is that they’re boring black anodized. Maybe I’ll have the spare one stripped and re-anoed.
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### Author:  [@Face](https://tarck.cc/u/Face)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2024, 4:43pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2632 "2024-08-15T16:43:25Z")
Scuff and spray bomb it before you build it up.
You know you want to.
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### Author:  [@Rusty\_Piton](https://tarck.cc/u/Rusty_Piton)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2633 "2024-08-16T00:18:06Z")
I think I will!
What colors should I get?
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### Author:  [@Face](https://tarck.cc/u/Face)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2634 "2024-08-16T15:36:05Z")
Let Roli pick it out.
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### Author:  [@Rusty\_Piton](https://tarck.cc/u/Rusty_Piton)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2635 "2024-08-16T16:10:52Z")
Good plan.
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### Author:  [@JUGE\_FREDD](https://tarck.cc/u/JUGE_FREDD)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2024, 11:00pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2636 "2024-09-02T23:00:39Z")
are these Enve hubs that use DT 180 internals troublesome?
> **[ENVE Carbon Road Hubs front & rear - CeramicSpeed bearings -rim- 231g RRP...](https://www.ebay.com/itm/145889850236)**
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> CeramicSpeed ceramic bearings. Incredibly light carbon hubs made in the United States by the masters of carbon bicycle components and e quipped with CeramicSpeed bearings. Strength dosn't appear to be an issue, with the flanges rated to take 800-900...
seems like the outlier risk would be having the cartridge bearings pressed into carbon without there being any preload adjustment in the DT axle design
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### Author:  [@Rusty\_Piton](https://tarck.cc/u/Rusty_Piton)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2024, 2:47pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2637 "2024-10-03T14:47:26Z")
I built up this Ryde Andra rim on the advice of a bunch of euro cargo nerds on a facebook group and surprise surprise, I’m a little annoyed.
I had to order it from germany and it was wobbly as hell right out the box, the joint is all fucky and there’s a little bit of something rattling around inside it.
The thing is true now but the tension is all over the place. I’ve never had a wheel be so uneven before. How the heck do I even out the tension while keeping it true?
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### Author:  [@Bootus](https://tarck.cc/u/Bootus)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2638 "2024-10-03T15:21:43Z")
> [@Rusty\_Piton](#):
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> it was wobbly as hell right out the box, the joint is all fucky and there’s a little bit of something rattling around inside it.
Is Mavic making those rims?
The last time I had uneven tension on wheels, I ended up taking all the spoke tension out and retensioning them. It worked great for one of the wheels and made no difference on the other.
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### Author:  [@Rusty\_Piton](https://tarck.cc/u/Rusty_Piton)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2639 "2024-10-03T15:24:59Z")
That’s what I was gonna try. I’ll report back here.
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### Author:  [@Face](https://tarck.cc/u/Face)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2640 "2024-10-03T15:42:53Z")
> [@JUGE\_FREDD](#):
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> are these Enve hubs that use DT 180 internals troublesome?
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> seems like the outlier risk would be having the cartridge bearings pressed into carbon without there being any preload adjustment in the DT axle design
I’ve seen a few spoke flanges crack, the internals are robust enough just like DT. They’re faster when they’re loose.
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### Author:  [@Dickason\_Daniel](https://tarck.cc/u/Dickason_Daniel)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2641 "2024-10-03T22:22:35Z")
I have a set of Ryde rims I got from velomine way back. I just rebuilt the front one back to a qr hub (long story). They have never tubelessed right, despite being clearly designed for tubeless. Always leaky. Ryde rims - never again.
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### Author:  [@BEEutiful\_Wednesday\_DDS](https://tarck.cc/u/BEEutiful_Wednesday_DDS)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2024, 11:55pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2642 "2024-10-03T23:55:26Z")
they’re taking you suckers for a ryde
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### Author:  [@ryker](https://tarck.cc/u/ryker)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2024, 3:56pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2644 "2024-10-04T15:56:46Z")
> [@Rusty\_Piton](#):
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> …go nerds on a facebook group and surprise …
These rims are directionally drilled. Hard to say but it looks like yours are laced opposite to the drilling direction. I understand they’re available in French and DIN drillings but all the ones I’ve seen/built have been French.
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### Author:  [@Rusty\_Piton](https://tarck.cc/u/Rusty_Piton)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2645 "2024-10-04T15:58:45Z")
It’s definitely directionally drilled and it’s definitely laced correctly. (I think, I’ll check later)
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### Author:  [@Andrew\_Andeson](https://tarck.cc/u/Andrew_Andeson)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2024, 12:13am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2646 "2024-10-05T00:13:45Z")
I think Rusty’s lefty -righty is correct.
Can you please explain the distinction between French and DIN drillings?
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### Author:  [@Rusty\_Piton](https://tarck.cc/u/Rusty_Piton)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2024, 1:17am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2647 "2024-10-05T01:17:17Z")
Yeah, those are new terms to me too.
Update: the lefty righty of my wheel is correct.
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### Author:  [@ryker](https://tarck.cc/u/ryker)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2024, 11:20am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/is-there-a-wheelbuilding-thread-yet/21898/2648 "2024-10-05T11:20:19Z")
Same as left/right or type1/type2 except some hope of remembering which is which. Typically you can tell just by looking at how spoke holes are offset from the rim centerline. But in rare cases the offsets are backwards because of extreme directional drilling.
I don’t specifically recall that being a feature of the Andra 40 but I do recall getting a French drilled rim, rare itself these days, when I ordered them last.
The pic looks like normal lacing but the nipples on either side of the valve appear to sit funny as if fighting the drilling direction. Probably just a collab between oversized holes and super thick extrusion tho.
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