# It's Electric! A thread for e-bike things.

**URL:** <https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808>\
**Category:** Bikes\
**Created:** [April 30, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808 "2020-04-30T20:41:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![shane.rrr](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/shane.rrr/32/7180_2.png) [@shane.rrr](https://tarck.cc/u/shane.rrr)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 1:18pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/582 "2023-06-07T13:18:17Z")

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That was exactly the setup I had it in

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**Author:** ![Brendal\_Crimpton](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/brendal_crimpton/32/88807_2.png) [@Brendal\_Crimpton](https://tarck.cc/u/Brendal_Crimpton)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/583 "2023-06-07T14:33:51Z")

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Okay but does it torque steer like a Honda civic at the Friday races? And does that same effect also stabilize the load?

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**Author:** ![Bootus](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/bootus/32/110971_2.png) [@Bootus](https://tarck.cc/u/Bootus)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/584 "2023-06-07T14:49:07Z")

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I’ve not noticed any torque steer with my front hub motor on a similar sized wheel.

Pretty sure that’s only a thing on FWD cars when the drive axles are of different lengths side to side.

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**Author:** ![yonderboy](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/yonderboy/32/159376_2.png) [@yonderboy](https://tarck.cc/u/yonderboy)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 3:04pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/585 "2023-06-07T15:04:54Z")

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Bicycles largely don’t have differentials, too.

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**Author:** ![cheese](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/cheese/32/182_2.png) [@cheese](https://tarck.cc/u/cheese)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 4:06pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/586 "2023-06-07T16:06:38Z")

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true, but gyroscopic precession is a thing— not sure it applies in a hub motor situation since the mass is near the axis of rotation but there is still a rotational inertia penalty vs a non motorized hub

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**Author:** ![Brendal\_Crimpton](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/brendal_crimpton/32/88807_2.png) [@Brendal\_Crimpton](https://tarck.cc/u/Brendal_Crimpton)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 4:26pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/587 "2023-06-07T16:26:02Z")

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Yeah so that’s my question^ does it stabilize the wag on a crust fork?

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**Author:** ![Dickason\_Daniel](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/dickason_daniel/32/13099_2.png) [@Dickason\_Daniel](https://tarck.cc/u/Dickason_Daniel)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 6:59pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/588 "2023-06-07T18:59:18Z")

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Daughter says she wants an e-bike now. 14yo. 5’6". Any deals out there? Should I do a conversion kit? I’d prefer mid-drive since it seems the nicest?

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**Author:** ![yonderboy](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/yonderboy/32/159376_2.png) [@yonderboy](https://tarck.cc/u/yonderboy)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 7:21pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/589 "2023-06-07T19:21:57Z")

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> [@Master\_Stabby](#):
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> Kona might still have an dew e on sale

Post can’t be empty.

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**Author:** ![Brendal\_Crimpton](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/brendal_crimpton/32/88807_2.png) [@Brendal\_Crimpton](https://tarck.cc/u/Brendal_Crimpton)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/590 "2023-06-07T19:28:54Z")

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Do you care if the assist is limited to 20mph or 28mph?

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**Author:** ![Master\_Stabby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/master_stabby/32/39791_2.png) [@Master\_Stabby](https://tarck.cc/u/Master_Stabby)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/591 "2023-06-07T19:42:21Z")

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@Dickason_Daniel

> [@yonderboy](#):
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> > [@Master\_Stabby](#):
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> > Kona might still have an dew e on sale
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> Post can’t be empty.

repost can’t be empty. screaming deal on a great bike.

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**Author:** ![Shamp](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/shamp/32/162757_2.png) [@Shamp](https://tarck.cc/u/Shamp)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 8:59pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/592 "2023-06-07T20:59:06Z")

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> **[Dew-E](https://konaworld.com/products/dew-e)**
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> The Dew-E has redefined what commuting means. The semi-integrated battery keeps the lines of the bike nice and clean, while the Shimano pedal-assist motor keeps every rider smiling no matter how far or how steep their ride. With front and rear...

SUPER tempting

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**Author:** ![lawnchairdave](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/lawnchairdave/32/37811_2.png) [@lawnchairdave](https://tarck.cc/u/lawnchairdave)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/593 "2023-06-07T21:19:33Z")

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Canyon is also having a sale on their [Precede-On AL](https://www.canyon.com/en-us/precede-on-5-st-cus/50022111.html?gclsrc=aw.ds&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw1YCkBhAOEiwA5aN4AVU4GGgfTOS1cMVh16t79NlxcgHnUEmD8hJVYUHImDNR2a0mHYKU4RoCGIIQAvD_BwE). Deore 11 and 28mph Bosch mid-drive for 2000USD seems like a bargain. Downside? No bottle cages.

 ![image](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/9/1/91ab6a5828fdd8662b247a4eb6b9c32beb5136b0.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Shamp](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/shamp/32/162757_2.png) [@Shamp](https://tarck.cc/u/Shamp)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/594 "2023-06-07T21:34:01Z")

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> [@lawnchairdave](#):
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> Downside?

Hideous

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**Author:** ![Brendal\_Crimpton](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/brendal_crimpton/32/88807_2.png) [@Brendal\_Crimpton](https://tarck.cc/u/Brendal_Crimpton)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 10:40pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/595 "2023-06-07T22:40:13Z")

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My question is, how proprietary are those frames to their electrical systems? If yes, then DIY seems like the only answer

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**Author:** ![euclid](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/euclid/32/37780_2.png) [@euclid](https://tarck.cc/u/euclid)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 11:26pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/596 "2023-06-07T23:26:37Z")

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> [@Bootus](#):
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> I’ve not noticed any torque steer with my front hub motor on a similar sized wheel.
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> Pretty sure that’s only a thing on FWD cars when the drive axles are of different lengths side to side.

I think this can happen if the reaction arm makes the fork leg flex, kind of like some underbuilt forks will steer with disc braking

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**Author:** ![Master\_Stabby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/master_stabby/32/39791_2.png) [@Master\_Stabby](https://tarck.cc/u/Master_Stabby)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2023, 11:50pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/597 "2023-06-07T23:50:54Z")

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the Shimano and Bosch ones are proprietary motor mounts but batteries and replacement parts will be available for the foreseeable future. anything else is functionally disposable.

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**Author:** ![Bootus](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/bootus/32/110971_2.png) [@Bootus](https://tarck.cc/u/Bootus)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 12:18am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/598 "2023-06-08T00:18:20Z")

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Oh yeah that would make sense.

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**Author:** ![Dickason\_Daniel](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/dickason_daniel/32/13099_2.png) [@Dickason\_Daniel](https://tarck.cc/u/Dickason_Daniel)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 1:59am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/599 "2023-06-08T01:59:25Z")

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> [@Brendal\_Crimpton](#):
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> Do you care if the assist is limited to 20mph or 28mph?

No. I think 2.5 bings is more than I want to throw at this kid who may not use it or take care of it.

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**Author:** ![Brendal\_Crimpton](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/brendal_crimpton/32/88807_2.png) [@Brendal\_Crimpton](https://tarck.cc/u/Brendal_Crimpton)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 2:03am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/600 "2023-06-08T02:03:31Z")

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I’d go hub drive, Aventon 350

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**Author:** ![Master\_Stabby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/master_stabby/32/39791_2.png) [@Master\_Stabby](https://tarck.cc/u/Master_Stabby)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 3:12am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/601 "2023-06-08T03:12:34Z")

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rad power single speed shit bike.

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