# It's Electric! A thread for e-bike things.

**URL:** <https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808>\
**Category:** Bikes\
**Created:** [April 30, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808 "2020-04-30T20:41:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Master\_Stabby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/master_stabby/32/39791_2.png) [@Master\_Stabby](https://tarck.cc/u/Master_Stabby)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 3:17am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1143 "2025-11-25T03:17:03Z")

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You don’t hear about batteries from Bosch or Shimano having problems, so maybe consider the source.

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**Author:** ![bward1028](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@bward1028](https://tarck.cc/u/bward1028)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 5:19am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1144 "2025-11-25T05:19:49Z")

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> [@Blakey](#):
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how do you feel about foot overlap with the front box? that was a nonstarter for me.

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**Author:** ![Blakey](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/blakey/32/25608_2.png) [@Blakey](https://tarck.cc/u/Blakey)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 5:24am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1145 "2025-11-25T05:24:04Z")

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How big are your feet? Are you more of a mid foot pedaller?

I’m a 43 euro and so far it’s not even been a concern. No strike/scrape/contact.  
If anything, rear clearance is the issue, if I wanted to run a rear pannier it would have to be hung way rearward on the rack, and offset the ortlieb mount to shift the pannier back in relation to the hooks so my heel doesn’t hit the pannier body.

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**Author:** ![bward1028](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@bward1028](https://tarck.cc/u/bward1028)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 5:43am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1146 "2025-11-25T05:43:00Z")

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48+ and kind of a mid foot pedaller. it was just a test ride and i could probably get over it

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Jart\_Attack\_PhD](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/dr_jart_attack_phd/32/16324_2.png) [@Dr\_Jart\_Attack\_PhD](https://tarck.cc/u/Dr_Jart_Attack_PhD)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 2:04pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1147 "2025-11-25T14:04:50Z")

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> [@jimmythefly](#):
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> I keep thinking how laptop and power tool folks seem to have this basically solved. It’s amazing how un-solved it seems for other sectors.

I feel like power tools maintain pretty “closed systems” and that probably helps. A brand’s batteries work with their tools and their chargers. I’m sure there are some people who fuck around and find out trying mix and match with homemade jumpers but for most people it is probably easier to just spend $50-100 on a new battery.

With e-bikes, the battery is larger and more valuable and people are less willing to retire a faulty one. Combine that with bad storage conditions, corrosion, mismatched chargers, cheapo BMSs, and a need to get your vehicle back on the road, I think e-bike batteries have more opportunities to be used improperly.

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**Author:** ![Bootus](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/bootus/32/110971_2.png) [@Bootus](https://tarck.cc/u/Bootus)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 3:44pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1148 "2025-11-25T15:44:06Z")

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And inexpensive/cheap cells make for a less expensive battery which makes for a less expensive bike. There might be statistically not that many fires compared to how many of those cheap/inexpensive packs are out there but boy are they bad when they do happen.

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**Author:** ![Blakey](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/blakey/32/25608_2.png) [@Blakey](https://tarck.cc/u/Blakey)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 4:30am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1149 "2025-11-29T04:30:18Z")

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Size 43. First video is pedal at midfoot, which i don’t ride like, then pedal at ball, how i do ride. Both clear fine.

First photo is pedal at ball, second is how far forward i have to have it to hit the box

 ![20251129_152606](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/9/8/984a50e943f4261b8263660b8932e84b040f90db.jpeg)

 ![20251129_152816](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/9/0/90dad48ead6aa196bca39be1ebee5ab05bab7bb9.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![dfl](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/dfl/32/662_2.png) [@dfl](https://tarck.cc/u/dfl)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 8:21am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1150 "2025-12-24T08:21:25Z")

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So Kat won a raffle for $400/$900 rebate on a “regular”/cargo ebike. I know nothing except that I am lobbying for cargo bike.

I haven’t really seriously considered an ebike before. What should we be looking at in the cargo bike world? What things do we want to look for? What bikes do we like?

Also I might be able to stack this with an alumni discount at the shop where I used to work, but their selection of practical bikes seems limited to Aventons, which are pretty ugly but a few look like they might be functional. Does anyone like those? Alumni discounts are highly case by case, so I’m not sure what the discount would end up being, especially since the shop has to go track down the rebate after the purchase, so TBD on whether the discount is worth swaying the decision at all, of course.

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**Author:** ![Bootus](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/bootus/32/110971_2.png) [@Bootus](https://tarck.cc/u/Bootus)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 1:28pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1151 "2025-12-24T13:28:58Z")

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Is the rebate from a specific shop or do you have to buy from any local shop?

If cargo, where would it be stored?

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**Author:** ![dfl](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/dfl/32/662_2.png) [@dfl](https://tarck.cc/u/dfl)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 6:27pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1152 "2025-12-24T18:27:10Z")

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I read all the small print last night and it looks like we have to buy from an [approved list](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQSnY53izvcM_iTFk50Nta81qLJAQYesN6PYKvdqAHvc9O3ynY1jYZ42BWs9IUQ0adG05yKLAvo_NsC/pubhtml) from one of several local bike shops. This is all fine, I’m glad the energy delivery company whose existence I can’t quite understand is at least supporting local business.

The Aventon Abound LR could probably be had for a pretty good price. I know we’ll need to go ride some bikes IRL before we decide anything, but I am wondering if spending more on a Yuba or similar more known (to me) entity would be worth the extra expense. Getting a cargo ebike for around a bong sounds great, but if it’s trash that’s going to give us trouble forever, no amount of savings makes that worth it.

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**Author:** ![jame5on](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jame5on/32/81952_2.png) [@jame5on](https://tarck.cc/u/jame5on)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 6:31pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1153 "2025-12-24T18:31:09Z")

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no to aventon. it’s a walmart bike with a motor. and not like a good wallmart bike that you can steal the good parts off of, like a bad wallmart bike that you throw away when it doesn’t ride ok anymore.

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**Author:** ![stumphumper](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/stumphumper/32/160851_2.png) [@stumphumper](https://tarck.cc/u/stumphumper)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2026, 7:40pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1154 "2026-02-06T19:40:41Z")

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Welp, if you’re in NJ with an ebike your life gets more annoying. They’re going full Karen right away

> **All e-bikes now require both registration and a driver’s license to ride anywhere in NJ, with Class 2 and 3 e-bikes also requiring an insurance policy**

> **[New Jersey Passes Most Restrictive E-Bike Law in the U.S. | PeopleForBikes](https://www.peopleforbikes.org/news/new-jersey-most-restrictive-ebike-law)**
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> On January 19, New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy signed the most restrictive e-bike law in the country. The new law restricts the definition of “low-speed electric bicycle” to only Class 1 devices, and treats Class 2 and 3 ebikes as “motorized...

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**Author:** ![yonderboy](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/yonderboy/32/159376_2.png) [@yonderboy](https://tarck.cc/u/yonderboy)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 12:57am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1155 "2026-03-03T00:57:13Z")

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Hans Rey wades into the debate:

> **[An Open Letter to the Bicycle Industry | Hans Rey Adventure Team](https://hansrey.com/an-open-letter-to-the-bicycle-industry/)**
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> By Hans Rey To the leaders, builders, advocates, and riders who shape our industry, I’m writing because I care deeply about where bicycles—and electric bicycles—are headed. We are at a crossroads. The decisions we make about language, power limits,...

Seems reasonable:

> We need distinct names for distinct machines:
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> - **E-bicycle (EMTB):** Class 1 pedal-assist only (20 mph max assist, 750W max peak power)
> - **E-moped:** Throttle-equipped **or** faster than 20 mph **or** exceeding 750W, incl. Class 2&3
> - **E-motorcycle:** High-power electric motorcycles well beyond bicycle-level performance
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> Clear labeling should be mandatory. Every electric vehicle should visibly state its category, assist speed, and peak motor power. This isn’t about enforcement—it’s about clarity and accountability.

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**Author:** ![jame5on](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jame5on/32/81952_2.png) [@jame5on](https://tarck.cc/u/jame5on)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 1:48am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1156 "2026-03-03T01:48:43Z")

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Fucking Germans

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Jart\_Attack\_PhD](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/dr_jart_attack_phd/32/16324_2.png) [@Dr\_Jart\_Attack\_PhD](https://tarck.cc/u/Dr_Jart_Attack_PhD)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 3:23am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1157 "2026-03-03T03:23:27Z")

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Seems reasonable. The wild west approach has clearly failed and the legislative backlash is already getting silly. The e-motorcycles are not that big of a deal here so I don’t know how obnoxious they are in the burbs or other cities. I hate getting passed by E-moped riders on the throttle when I’m on the MUP but it’s still mostly good to get more people on bikes.

But honestly I’m kinda on-board with the EU regs as far as speed. The 250w limit is low for heavy people and cargo bikes, but the 15.5 mph limit for assist is good for riding on urban bike infrastructure. I get irritated with all the E bike marketing here around power and speed but it is the USA after all

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**Author:** ![Bootus](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/bootus/32/110971_2.png) [@Bootus](https://tarck.cc/u/Bootus)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 3:13pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1158 "2026-03-03T15:13:38Z")

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The more time I spend on an ebike the more okay I am with the Euro speed regs. That’s plenty fast on shared trails, might even be the speed limit on a lot of that infrastructure, and on the roads most drivers here don’t expect a bike to be going as fast as 20 mph, let alone 28.

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**Author:** ![Smitty2k1](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/smitty2k1/32/113893_2.png) [@Smitty2k1](https://tarck.cc/u/Smitty2k1)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 4:20pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1159 "2026-03-03T16:20:31Z")

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Ouch I burned a hole in my grin superharness. Something ain’t right…

 ![20260302_205312](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/3/9/39b130beebdf1a35205b3430418abc867582172d.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![jame5on](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jame5on/32/81952_2.png) [@jame5on](https://tarck.cc/u/jame5on)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 4:24pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1160 "2026-03-03T16:24:16Z")

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like it burned from the inside out? they reached out and sent me a free replacement because they said the batch I got had water intrusion issues. I bet they will warranty it, they have been really good about that kind of stuff with me when I can navigate communicating with them

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**Author:** ![Smitty2k1](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/smitty2k1/32/113893_2.png) [@Smitty2k1](https://tarck.cc/u/Smitty2k1)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 4:48pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1161 "2026-03-03T16:48:40Z")

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Yeah they sent me a new one already because my lights were staying on even with the display off. Conveniently the new one arrived yesterday, and this burn happened last night right before I swapped it

Unfortunately, the new superharness did not solve the issue of lights on even with display off, so I suspect it’s a bigger problem and only a matter of time before it happens again.

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**Author:** ![amy](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/amy/32/37766_2.png) [@amy](https://tarck.cc/u/amy)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2026, 5:07pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/its-electric-a-thread-for-e-bike-things/23808/1162 "2026-03-03T17:07:46Z")

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> [@Dr\_Jart\_Attack\_PhD](#):
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> The e-motorcycles are not that big of a deal here so I don’t know how obnoxious they are in the burbs or other cities.

it’s very location dependent here, but in the wealthier burbs there are suron kids everyone. They’re frequently going through parks and other areas meant for kids to play at high speeds.

I see kids on e-motos wearing no helmet doing wheelies down the roads all the time in Boulder during the summer.

Went to a bike park in Broomfield (Kind of surburb between boulder and denver) and it was 75% kids in e-motos just plowing into the jumps and not getting any air.

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