# Kit Chat **URL:** \ **Category:** Bikes\ **Created:** [June 23, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291 "2021-06-23T21:53:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![BEEutiful\_Wednesday\_DDS](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/beeutiful_wednesday_dds/32/40914_2.png) [@BEEutiful\_Wednesday\_DDS](https://tarck.cc/u/BEEutiful_Wednesday_DDS)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/201 "2022-02-14T17:21:19Z")
i also just hate everything about saunas so i’m not really able to assess the situation ---
**Author:** ![halbritt](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/f17d59/32.png) [@halbritt](https://tarck.cc/u/halbritt)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/202 "2022-02-14T17:22:17Z")
> [@cheese](#): > > I’ve never entered a sauna and felt like I would inevitably end up having sex It’s certainly not a requirement. My point is that with the physiological response to the heat and the nakedness, that an inclination towards sexual activities shouldn’t seem unusual. 'course there’s plenty of circumstances where. it’d be entirely inappropriate. BITD when I was living in the Santa Cruz mountains, I would visit the Teahouse spa pretty frequently, which had lovely spa/hot tub private rooms overlooking a bamboo garden. On the way in, I discovered a friend that worked there. As I was headed in, she sang a little jingle at me. It seemed apparent this was a common thing to sing. “Don’t get jizz in the sauna!” Kinda ruined the mood for me. ---
**Author:** ![lawnchairdave](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/lawnchairdave/32/37811_2.png) [@lawnchairdave](https://tarck.cc/u/lawnchairdave)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/203 "2022-02-14T19:44:52Z")
[![](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/3/4/34f75f45aa7cfd077cfe9b71bb9c8c98084f002e.jpeg "IASIP - Charlie and Frank at the Spa") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw58LU591fA) ---
**Author:** ![LASER\_BEIGE](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/laser_beige/32/152421_2.png) [@LASER\_BEIGE](https://tarck.cc/u/LASER_BEIGE)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 2:31am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/204 "2022-02-15T02:31:50Z")
> [@anon3547885](#): > > my ew ew ew reflex Same ---
**Author:** ![BEEutiful\_Wednesday\_DDS](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/beeutiful_wednesday_dds/32/40914_2.png) [@BEEutiful\_Wednesday\_DDS](https://tarck.cc/u/BEEutiful_Wednesday_DDS)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 12:47pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/205 "2022-02-15T12:47:52Z")
i would wear used kit because i have a washing machine ---
**Author:** ![featherduster](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/featherduster/32/152369_2.png) [@featherduster](https://tarck.cc/u/featherduster)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 1:45pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/206 "2022-02-15T13:45:06Z")
but butt but butt ---
**Author:** ![anon3547885](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@anon3547885](https://tarck.cc/u/anon3547885)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 4:24pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/207 "2022-02-19T16:24:02Z")
My original Rapha kangaroo shoes bit it last year, and I bought some amazing Fizik Vento Powerstraps that I love. But my current plan is to go back to outdoor riding on March 10 and I need a road shoe that isn’t more holes than fabric, riding the Fiziks in December was kind of torture. Suggestions? I need a shoe that isn’t a winter shoe but is generally poorly ventilated and not super expensive since they are basically for March and April and late Nov-Dec. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Stabby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/master_stabby/32/39791_2.png) [@Master\_Stabby](https://tarck.cc/u/Master_Stabby)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/208 "2022-02-19T17:42:45Z")
Why not shoe covers? ---
**Author:** ![anon3547885](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@anon3547885](https://tarck.cc/u/anon3547885)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 5:45pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/209 "2022-02-19T17:45:27Z")
Because I really, really hate struggling with them ---
**Author:** ![EndpointBraden](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/endpointbraden/32/22101_2.png) [@EndpointBraden](https://tarck.cc/u/EndpointBraden)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 5:50pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/210 "2022-02-19T17:50:23Z")
Shimano RC7 ---
**Author:** ![anon3547885](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@anon3547885](https://tarck.cc/u/anon3547885)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/211 "2022-02-19T18:09:18Z")
> [@EndpointBraden](#): > > Shimano RC7 Are they as pinchy as S-Phyres? I had a pair of Sphyres and they were not good for me. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Stabby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/master_stabby/32/39791_2.png) [@Master\_Stabby](https://tarck.cc/u/Master_Stabby)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/212 "2022-02-19T19:55:06Z")
Dunno I had some cheap ass potenza neoprene things and they took about 30 seconds to throw on. If you’re struggling with shoe covers you’re shopping at the wrong end of the market. ---
**Author:** ![BEEutiful\_Wednesday\_DDS](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/beeutiful_wednesday_dds/32/40914_2.png) [@BEEutiful\_Wednesday\_DDS](https://tarck.cc/u/BEEutiful_Wednesday_DDS)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 10:44pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/213 "2022-02-19T22:44:10Z")
> [@anon3547885](#): > > …ought some amazing Fizik Vento Powerstraps that I love. But my current plan is to go back to outdoor riding on March 10 and I need a road shoe that isn’t more holes than fabric, riding the Fiziks in December was kind of torture. Suggestions? I need a shoe that isn’t a winter shoe but is generally poorly ventilated and not super expensive since they are basically for March and April and late Nov-Dec. I have sidi rain shoes for this purpose. I forget the model name. ---
**Author:** ![EndpointBraden](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/endpointbraden/32/22101_2.png) [@EndpointBraden](https://tarck.cc/u/EndpointBraden)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 1:39am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/214 "2022-02-20T01:39:02Z")
It’s my understanding the other shoes use a slightly different fit. XC7 and RX800 both work well for me. Fit seems similar to the mid-level Fizik stuff I have tried on. ---
**Author:** ![halbritt](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/f17d59/32.png) [@halbritt](https://tarck.cc/u/halbritt)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 6:43am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/215 "2022-02-20T06:43:38Z")
> [@EndpointBraden](#): > > It’s my understanding the other shoes use a slightly different fit. XC7 and RX800 both work well for me. Fit seems similar to the mid-level Fizik stuff I have tried on. I have the RX800 and the RC9. The RC9 has a boa that tightens the forefoot and mid-foot simultaneously. For me, this causes pinching across the proximal phalanges if I torque that one down as much as I’d like it to be across the mid-foot. As a result, I have to really tighten the boa on the instep strap to feel secure. The RX800 is different in that it has a boa that tightens the instep and mid-foot and has a velcro strap for the forefoot. I can crank on the boa and not bother my forefoot. Snug the velco strap and I’m good to go. From what I can tell the RC7 is arranged similarly to the RC9 and may suffer that same issue. ---
**Author:** ![anon3547885](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@anon3547885](https://tarck.cc/u/anon3547885)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 2:26pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/216 "2022-02-20T14:26:18Z")
I ended getting Lake CXZ176 shoes, they are supposed to be specifically designed for winter without being boots and they were the right price ($112 at PBK). Despite the confusing “CX” in their name they are 3-hole ![image](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/b/f/bf2dae693b215149a6635214951b3ba55ce92a4b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![turpentine](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/turpentine/32/51348_2.png) [@turpentine](https://tarck.cc/u/turpentine)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/217 "2022-02-20T14:57:57Z")
I would have just recommended staying with fizik. The cut of a lake shoe and a fizik shoe is very different. ---
**Author:** ![anon3547885](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@anon3547885](https://tarck.cc/u/anon3547885)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/218 "2022-02-20T15:07:45Z")
Apparently the cut of new Fizik shoes as they introduce new models, including the one I have, is very different from earlier Fizik shoes so I’m not sure that applies ---
**Author:** ![turpentine](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/turpentine/32/51348_2.png) [@turpentine](https://tarck.cc/u/turpentine)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 3:18pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/219 "2022-02-20T15:18:39Z")
Oh yes. I only have a pair of ancient made in Italy fizik shoes. They are also kangaroo leather. I assumed they were made somewhere that also makes soccer cleats. I wear them off and on but they are pretty warm. I ended up buying the rapha pro team knit shoe. It has tons of ventilation. ---
**Author:** ![yonderboy](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/yonderboy/32/159376_2.png) [@yonderboy](https://tarck.cc/u/yonderboy)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 12:38am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/220 "2022-02-21T00:38:18Z")
Dammit. Now I’m lusting after these Terra Arctica X2. With the Boa closure, they got rid of the only problem with the Arctica X5. ![image](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/5/0/505f92a5e301112812b8d6c8a472684dcf0d9192.jpeg) [Previous page](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291.md?page=10) [Next page](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291.md?page=12)