# Kit Chat **URL:** \ **Category:** Bikes\ **Created:** [June 23, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291 "2021-06-23T21:53:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![LASER\_BEIGE](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/laser_beige/32/152421_2.png) [@LASER\_BEIGE](https://tarck.cc/u/LASER_BEIGE)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 4:11pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/261 "2022-03-09T16:11:51Z")
For a windbreaker? Or a jacket? ---
**Author:** ![rabbi](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/rabbi/32/573_2.png) [@rabbi](https://tarck.cc/u/rabbi)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/262 "2022-03-09T16:13:01Z")
No pit zips, but Patagonia helium houdini is my go-to. I actually want one w/o a hood to just have as a super packable wind jacket. ---
**Author:** ![spaghetti](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/spaghetti/32/37773_2.png) [@spaghetti](https://tarck.cc/u/spaghetti)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 4:14pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/263 "2022-03-09T16:14:36Z")
windbreaker ---
**Author:** ![spaghetti](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/spaghetti/32/37773_2.png) [@spaghetti](https://tarck.cc/u/spaghetti)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/264 "2022-03-09T16:20:50Z")
> [@rabbi](#): > > No pit zips, but Patagonia helium houdini is my go-to. I actually want one w/o a hood to just have as a super packable wind jacket. backpacker recommended this to me yesterday as something i can try on in person but was pushing [montbell tachyon](https://www.montbell.us/products/disp.php?p_id=2303106) as something i’d love ---
**Author:** ![Rent-to-own-Faxmachine](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/rent-to-own-faxmachine/32/80299_2.png) [@Rent-to-own-Faxmachine](https://tarck.cc/u/Rent-to-own-Faxmachine)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 4:23pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/265 "2022-03-09T16:23:29Z")
SRAM bought Velocio? ---
**Author:** ![iwillbe](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/iwillbe/32/1896_2.png) [@iwillbe](https://tarck.cc/u/iwillbe)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/266 "2022-03-09T16:25:36Z")
> **[Velocio / SRAM](https://velocio.cc/blogs/features/velocio-sram)** > > Today we’re selling Velocio Apparel to SRAM. Here’s why. Let’s start at the beginning. We were motivated to launch Velocio in 2013 by a drive for a better cycling product, a better cycling culture, and a deeper commitment to responsible... ---
**Author:** ![Rent-to-own-Faxmachine](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/rent-to-own-faxmachine/32/80299_2.png) [@Rent-to-own-Faxmachine](https://tarck.cc/u/Rent-to-own-Faxmachine)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/267 "2022-03-09T16:28:27Z")
RMA jokes in 3, 2, 1… ---
**Author:** ![rabbi](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/rabbi/32/573_2.png) [@rabbi](https://tarck.cc/u/rabbi)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 4:35pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/268 "2022-03-09T16:35:18Z")
That looks pretty slick. Can’t really make out the pit vents, but I’m sure it’s just a vented fabric or something. ---
**Author:** ![halbritt](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/f17d59/32.png) [@halbritt](https://tarck.cc/u/halbritt)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/269 "2022-03-09T17:46:32Z")
> [@EndpointBraden](#): > > I feel like knickers either 1. Just don’t fit well or 2. Do weird shit to my knee tracking. Again…. I think this is highly personal and likely changes with time. Ten years ago I couldn’t imagine wearing thermal bibs. ---
**Author:** ![teepz](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/teepz/32/25596_2.png) [@teepz](https://tarck.cc/u/teepz)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/270 "2022-03-09T18:44:03Z")
> [@spaghetti](#): > > backpacker recommended this to me yesterday as something i can try on in person > but was pushing as something i’d love Montbell is cheaper ordering from .jp btw. They have stuff in US and Japanese sizing. ---
**Author:** ![LASER\_BEIGE](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/laser_beige/32/152421_2.png) [@LASER\_BEIGE](https://tarck.cc/u/LASER_BEIGE)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/271 "2022-03-09T20:23:22Z")
Anybody want to start a reasonable bike brand and then sell out in 5-9 years ---
**Author:** ![EndpointBraden](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/endpointbraden/32/22101_2.png) [@EndpointBraden](https://tarck.cc/u/EndpointBraden)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/272 "2022-03-09T20:57:35Z")
Back off. ---
**Author:** ![iwillbe](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/iwillbe/32/1896_2.png) [@iwillbe](https://tarck.cc/u/iwillbe)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/273 "2022-03-09T21:00:26Z")
Got Sinyard on the other line there? ---
**Author:** ![æfop](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/%C3%A6fop/32/71206_2.png) [@æfop](https://tarck.cc/u/%C3%A6fop)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/274 "2022-03-10T00:48:34Z")
Anyone have opinions on mtb shoe covers that are good for all-day wet performance? I’ve tried sealskinz neoprene and they were scarcely better than a paper bag. I think uninsulated or just light insulation, and on the slimmer fitting side would be what I’m after. Lazer\_Beige suggested lizard skins but they don’t seem to be available. ---
**Author:** ![Timarchylime](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/timarchylime/32/61940_2.png) [@Timarchylime](https://tarck.cc/u/Timarchylime)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 3:00pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/275 "2022-03-10T15:00:13Z")
I use the P.I. ones, but they aren’t great. They keep my feet from being absolutely frozen, but not much more than that. One thing I’ve always wanted to try is putting a small hand warmer between the cover and the shoe, right over the toes. Won’t change the fit of the shoe, might provide enough warmth to keep toes cozy. I always forget to try it the few times a year I actually use shoe covers. ---
**Author:** ![halbritt](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/f17d59/32.png) [@halbritt](https://tarck.cc/u/halbritt)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 3:03pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/276 "2022-03-10T15:03:21Z")
I have the Castelli ROS ones. They’re expensive, but do work well. ---
**Author:** ![æfop](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/%C3%A6fop/32/71206_2.png) [@æfop](https://tarck.cc/u/%C3%A6fop)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/277 "2022-03-10T18:19:38Z")
PI has a few models, is it the “P.R.O. Barrier W x B” type that you have? I was curious about those. ---
**Author:** ![æfop](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/%C3%A6fop/32/71206_2.png) [@æfop](https://tarck.cc/u/%C3%A6fop)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/278 "2022-03-10T22:19:11Z")
> [@halbritt](#): > > Castelli ROS ones Do these fit 2-bolt/mtb shoes? Pet peeve is manufacturer not specifying what shoe they are made for. ---
**Author:** ![anon3547885](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ecccb3/32.png) [@anon3547885](https://tarck.cc/u/anon3547885)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 10:27pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/279 "2022-03-10T22:27:13Z")
> [@æfop](#): > > Anyone have opinions on mtb shoe covers that are good for all-day wet performance? I’ve tried sealskinz neoprene and they were scarcely better than a paper bag. I think uninsulated or just light insulation, and on the slimmer fitting side would be what I’m after I know this isn’t what you are asking for but I solved this issue by buying some Lake winter shoes (not boots) a few weeks ago and they work great, are completely comfortable with thick winter socks, and were not expensive for cycling shoes. They are waterproof and have one vent that can be taped shut (I think, I just left it as is because they are fine with the tiny little vent for me) Lake CXZ176 (there’s a mtb version too) > **[CXZ176](https://www.lakecycling.com/products/cxz-176)** > > CXZ176 offers incredible performance, stability, warmth and all day comfort. With a sealed upper designed to keep your foot warm against cold wind, the CXZ176 is a great alternative to wearing shoe covers. Sizing Suggestion: For use with winter... ---
**Author:** ![halbritt](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/f17d59/32.png) [@halbritt](https://tarck.cc/u/halbritt)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 10:29pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/280 "2022-03-10T22:29:51Z")
Kinda… ![image](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/0/5/050a9912a07cdc2e2e16ee14635ee037d6d51107.jpeg) Depends on the tread on the shoe. These ones beat up the heel area pretty quickly. I’ve got one season on these and I’m not sure they would make it to three, this the concern over price. [Previous page](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291.md?page=13) [Next page](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291.md?page=15)