# Kit Chat **URL:** \ **Category:** Bikes\ **Created:** [June 23, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291 "2021-06-23T21:53:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![EuroJorch](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/eurojorch/32/135386_2.png) [@EuroJorch](https://tarck.cc/u/EuroJorch)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2024, 11:45am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/321 "2024-05-08T11:45:44Z")
IME they run on the roomy side mostly. I wear 32 and have to cinch the buckle on size 32 Trail Air shorts all the way. The Fjalraven colabo stuff fits kind of slim though. ---
**Author:** ![scrub](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/scrub/32/842_2.png) [@scrub](https://tarck.cc/u/scrub)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/322 "2024-05-08T13:04:28Z")
Thanks, Josh. I’m thinking about the trail shorts with the liner and a pair of Demo pants and looking at the size charts I guess the 32 will probably work. ---
**Author:** ![EuroJorch](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/eurojorch/32/135386_2.png) [@EuroJorch](https://tarck.cc/u/EuroJorch)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/323 "2024-05-08T20:59:31Z")
I have a pair of the pants and they are snugger than the shorts. ---
**Author:** ![frank\_doktor](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/frank_doktor/32/12_2.png) [@frank\_doktor](https://tarck.cc/u/frank_doktor)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 5:32am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/324 "2024-05-09T05:32:53Z")
Trail pants are slimmer than the demo pants through all of the leg. I can’t get my size 13 feet through the bottom cuff of Trail pants without tearing it, so I went Demos. Not as slim and pro looking, but hella comfy. ---
**Author:** ![Horse\_Mafia](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/horse_mafia/32/16130_2.png) [@Horse\_Mafia](https://tarck.cc/u/Horse_Mafia)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2026, 9:01pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/325 "2026-06-03T21:01:25Z")
anyone try or hear anything about H&M kit? there’s base layers and socks too [https://www2.hm.com/en\_us/productpage.1322118002.html](https://www2.hm.com/en_us/productpage.1322118002.html) [https://www2.hm.com/en\_us/productpage.1329800001.html](https://www2.hm.com/en_us/productpage.1329800001.html) ---
**Author:** ![frank\_doktor](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/frank_doktor/32/12_2.png) [@frank\_doktor](https://tarck.cc/u/frank_doktor)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2026, 9:06pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/326 "2026-06-03T21:06:44Z")
whoa. That was unexpected. ---
**Author:** ![teepz](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/teepz/32/25596_2.png) [@teepz](https://tarck.cc/u/teepz)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2026, 9:19pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/327 "2026-06-03T21:19:58Z")
life is too short to buy that garbage ---
**Author:** ![jame5on](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jame5on/32/81952_2.png) [@jame5on](https://tarck.cc/u/jame5on)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2026, 9:32pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/328 "2026-06-03T21:32:15Z")
![Screenshot 2026-06-03 173037](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/6/d/6d558a255a880954d891df695020f0383a4a67c8.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Smitty2k1](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/smitty2k1/32/113893_2.png) [@Smitty2k1](https://tarck.cc/u/Smitty2k1)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 4:00pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/329 "2026-06-09T16:00:09Z")
Suggestions on riding shorts (with pockets) to wear over bib shorts for commuting? Need plenty of thigh space… ---
**Author:** ![yonderboy](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/yonderboy/32/159376_2.png) [@yonderboy](https://tarck.cc/u/yonderboy)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 4:09pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/330 "2026-06-09T16:09:41Z")
Endura and Rapha are pretty slim in the thighs. Dakine is almost too baggy. I have Pactimo baggies with a lycra panel that seem to be the happy medium. ---
**Author:** ![Horse\_Mafia](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/horse_mafia/32/16130_2.png) [@Horse\_Mafia](https://tarck.cc/u/Horse_Mafia)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2026, 4:19pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291/331 "2026-06-09T16:19:38Z")
might try these out myself > **[Men's ADV Shorts](https://www.specialized.com/us/en/mens-adv-shorts/p/216539)** > > Built with a rugged, twill-weave fabric for a clean and durable look, combined with VaporRize™ moisture-wicking properties, the ADV Short lives up to it... edit just kidding, only a couple sizes are in stock for shipping [Previous page](https://tarck.cc/t/kit-chat/25291.md?page=16)