[quote=rabbit magic]Because it’s racist if white people say white power but it’s perfectly acceptable if black people say black power.
People want equality but when shit like that exists we will never have it.[/quote]
do you really believe that those are two sides of the same coin? it seems to me that, given that white people have traditionally controlled absolutely everything in this country, and will continue to for the foreseeable future, that “white power” is just piling on. I don’t see “white power” as being even remotely comparable to “black power”
I do in our current state. Ask me even 40 years ago and I would have been all about a strong black power movement. But we have so many opportunities in this country just because we are americans, regardless of skin color, that I see it as unnecessary.
Additionally, I don’t understand why one race can get away with being proud of their race and the others can’t.
I’m not saying black people shouldn’t be proud to be black… quite the contrary. I just don’t want to get called a racist when I say that I am proud to be white.
I agree to a point.
But you didn’t address my other points… What are your thoughts on my entire post?
I get kinda pissed off because quite a bit of these American black power movements were spawned out of the slavery and subsequent racism that existed for some time in America… long before my family got here.
I have black people call me “whitey”, tell me I am a “racist white boy” when I won’t give a homeless black man money, talk to me about reparations, etc etc. But none of that I or my family are responsible for! My family didn’t get here until the 40’s and they kept to themselves. No racism, no slaves. So it pisses me off that all white people get pegged with the stigma that we are just a bunch of racist assholes.
And still I pay taxes that fund African American programs. Which I certainly don’t mind… I just don’t see the point in driving home the black power thing when so many white people in the states are so far removed from slavery and racism.
Know what I mean?
i know what you mean, but if you think we’re living in some post-racial society, you’re absolutely delusional. None of us is removed by any distance at all from racism or the legacy of slavery. We’re white and enjoying the privelege of being part of the majority. We have opportunities that others don’t; it’s as simple as that, to me. We’re not all equal. We’re not all Americans regardless of skin color.
so, why are you proud to be white? what’s so awesome about it? white dudes did some science and painted some paintings, but they also sujugated entire races of people, started world wars, etc. Pride in anything other than one’s own accomplishments is pointless, to me.
I think the point he is trying to make is that, if white people say white power, they’re racist. If a black person says it, they’re not. I really don’t care, because I hate everyone, it doesn’t matter the color of your skin. If you’re fucking a stupid douche, I’m going to hate you.
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[quote=Captain Gnarlock]i know what you mean, but if you think we’re living in some post-racial society, you’re absolutely delusional. None of us is removed by any distance at all from racism or the legacy of slavery. We’re white and enjoying the privelege of being part of the majority. We have opportunities that others don’t; it’s as simple as that, to me. We’re not all equal. We’re not all Americans regardless of skin color.
so, why are you proud to be white? what’s so awesome about it? white dudes did some science and painted some paintings, but they also sujugated entire races of people, started world wars, etc. Pride in anything other than one’s own accomplishments is pointless, to me.[/quote]
I didn’t say that we were living in a post-racial society. BUT I am removed from it because I nor my ancestors had any part in the racism that existed here int he states. That’s a fact.
And I did say “when I say I am proud to be white” but I misspoke… I should have said “IF I WERE TO SAY I am proud to be white”. I’m not walking around proud that I am white, chest out, nose in the air, looking down at all of the other races. No fucking way.
I like being white. But that is just because I think I rule and can’t imagine myself another color. I’ve been white all my life. haha
But I certainly agree that one should be proud of their personal accomplishments more than the random occurences in life.
I feel like you are getting pissed, Ian, and that is not my intention at all.
And yeah Les, that’s pretty much it. I fucking hate almost everyone. Just for being shitty human beings.
i gotta agree with ian on this one
we have discussed this before
and i have mentioned it before
but all white people benefit from white privilege
it doesn’t matter when your ancestors got here or if they owned slaves or any of that
an example
alot of times when this argument comes up people like to talk about whites in west virginia who are poor as fuck
blah blah etc etc…being poor sucks dont get me wrong
but they can always dress up and look the part of someone else
they still have the benefit of white skin
black people/people of color can never have that and they will always have to wonder perhaps did i not get that job because of the color of my skin
i imagine on his helmet he wrote it sort of as a joke coz black and he gots the power legs
[quote=stiffytruck]anyway i ain’t for black power or any other people to have power i just am for equality for all
if it can ever happen[/quote]
that’s pretty much what I am saying. If you read my first response to Ian I said:
Here’s the big difference. If someone says, “white power” they are very likely a racist. If someone says, “black power” there’s about a 50/50 chance that they’re a racist.
you wanna have “white” pride/power and be socially accepted? go to oktoberfest, st patricks day, little italy, whatever else. “white” is a bullshit term that’s arbitrary and exclusionary.
now i’m not sure if it’s any more historically accurate for people with egyptian/sudanese/algerian heritage to share some identity as “black”, but that’s the reality of current american culture.
Here’s the big difference. If someone says, “white power” they are very likely a racist. If someone says, “black power” there’s about a 50/50 chance that they’re a racist.[/quote]
yes
b. since minorities can’t effectively discriminate on the basis of race, their racism, if it exists, is a lot less sinister and bothers me much less. it’s still fucked up, however.