# Miguel's fat-tired fopmobile

**URL:** <https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493>\
**Category:** Bikes\
**Created:** [December 6, 2013, 9:40pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493 "2013-12-06T21:40:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lippy](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/lippy/32/712_2.png) [@Lippy](https://tarck.cc/u/Lippy)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/501 "2015-09-21T19:59:27Z")

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Data point.

On my Straggler with SLX hydros I get a fair amount of visible deflection under hard braking. I would guess that the NFE fork is probably one of the more compliant steel forks in the wild.

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 8:03pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/502 "2015-09-21T20:03:34Z")

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@BBILL what fork blades?

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/503 "2015-09-21T20:34:53Z")

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I’d like to see some measurements on what axes the jeff jones forks are stiff in.

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 9:02pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/504 "2015-09-21T21:02:54Z")

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> [@NOVELTYNAME](#):
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> @BBILL what fork blades?

mine are these: [http://www.cycle-frames.com/bicycle-frame-tubing/NOVA-CRMO-ROAD-OVAL-0.9-0.6-NOV\_CXFB\_OVL\_0.9.html](http://www.cycle-frames.com/bicycle-frame-tubing/NOVA-CRMO-ROAD-OVAL-0.9-0.6-NOV_CXFB_OVL_0.9.html)

I heard something about a third 25.4 oval option besides those and the tandem chainstays, so might be something else now

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 9:04pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/505 "2015-09-21T21:04:33Z")

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dammit, i just found the thread on VS

[quote]  
NOVA CRMO ROAD 25.4 OVAL 0.9/0.6 :: FORK BLADES :: TUBES STEEL :: Nova Cycles Supply Inc.

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they're the traditional road butting, but very slightly oversized in the oval section to fit an odd fork crown: NOVA CYCLE X FORK CROWN "old school" 70mm width [/quote]
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**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/506 "2015-09-21T21:09:31Z")

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[quote=NOVELTYNAME]heres where i need to type things and flush out ideas:  
desired forks for classic rando bikes with rim brakes are generally more boingy which is good for comfort[/quote]

nobody but Jan acolytes are actually underbuilding forks for flexibility

and they only get “french curve flex” by using special blades that immediately taper down to a tiny round tube

[quote=NOVELTYNAME]disc brake forks are generally more stiff to handle the braking force  
is anyone making a boingy disc brake fork?[/quote]

some disc forks are overbuilt enough not to move, but most feel perfectly normal

you can get a LAUF if you wanna go full fop

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 10:59pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/507 "2015-09-21T22:59:43Z")

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A while back I was thinking a floating disc mount would possibly be good for this application (i.e. Brake Therapy).

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 11:06pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/508 "2015-09-21T23:06:12Z")

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[quote=NOVELTYNAME]  
is anyone making a boingy disc brake fork?[/quote]

The only boingy fork legs would unrake with a disc mount short enough to allow boingage, You can run a longer mount to reinforce them which then takes the boing out of your left leg, and then you still might bend the fork leg outwards.

If you really want to go hovercar the solution is probably a floating brake arm that mounts well up in the larger section of the fork blade.

If you need boing, design in the tire clearance to run 50s.

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/509 "2015-09-21T23:45:51Z")

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[quote=JUGE FREDD]

you can get a LAUF if you wanna go full fop[/quote]

Yes. Go ham or go home.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 9:37pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/510 "2015-11-06T21:37:00Z")

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ok, i have a couple questions pointed in the direction of braden, fred, and resident fbs(eric, etc):

what makes a bike accelerate fast? when im reading a review of  
 ![](http://cdn.velonews.competitor.com/files/2015/08/12-659x440.jpg)  
and the reviewer says “it accelerates quickly” how does that apply?

also, bike above has a 140mm stem and has a single 5mm spacer (reviewer says “long and low”) does that play into it?

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/511 "2015-11-06T21:50:39Z")

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It is a bike review. You can only really say 3 or 4 things.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 10:07pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/512 "2015-11-06T22:07:11Z")

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> [@lukasz](#):
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> It is a bike review. You can only really say 3 or 4 things.

But is it stiff?

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/513 "2015-11-06T22:13:05Z")

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vertically compliant?

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 10:31pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/514 "2015-11-06T22:31:14Z")

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its a bike review. its pretty much guaranteed to be a load of shit

that said, my crabon bike deffos feels like it goes faster in a straight line but im pretty positive its just coz the bb doesnt flex around as much as on a steel frame combined with how the road vibrations feel thru the biek and how the crabon dampens them.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 11:36pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/515 "2015-11-06T23:36:02Z")

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Geometry is weird shit. I know some people understand it and I believe that it is understandeable but its just like magic to me sometimes. I have this old 80s mtb frame set up as a singlespeed with cruiser bars and a 150mm stem and it dives into turns so confidently, like nothing I have ever ridden. Why? I don’t know or really care. Some bikes just do stuff better/different than other bikes.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 11:39pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/516 "2015-11-06T23:39:57Z")

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[quote=NOVELTYNAME]what makes a bike accelerate fast? when im reading a review of  
 ![](http://cdn.velonews.competitor.com/files/2015/08/12-659x440.jpg) [/quote]

![](http://31.media.tumblr.com/a82bfbdd184f26a695eb6dabf848b0dd/tumblr_minqj2HVT01rby04wo1_1280.gif)

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2015, 12:38am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/517 "2015-11-07T00:38:32Z")

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> [@johnasavoia](#):
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> I have this old 80s mtb frame set up as a singlespeed with cruiser bars and a 150mm stem

basically the bike i posted up there amirite  
 ![](http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/2372536/vegeta-dragon-ball-z-o.gif)

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2015, 3:20am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/518 "2015-11-07T03:20:18Z")

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Shouldn’t the biggest factor in perceived acceleration be in the wheels?

Otherwise I’m with dorth and John. Frames feel different, and I usually feel faster on bikes that are stiff around the bb (but I’m not convinced I’m actually faster in those cases).

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 12:14am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/519 "2015-11-09T00:14:42Z")

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If you are reading this thread will you please post your favorite French fit Rando?  
Kthx

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 1:59am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/miguels-fat-tired-fopmobile/20493/520 "2015-11-09T01:59:01Z")

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No one post shit until he posts pictures of his bikes.

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