# Open Cannondale CAPO discussion
**URL:** https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178
**Category:** Bikes
**Created:** [January 15, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178 "2009-01-15T17:40:18Z")
**Posts on this page:** 17
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### Author:  [@halbritt](https://tarck.cc/u/halbritt)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178/21 "2009-01-16T00:18:47Z")
Decided, or already bought?
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### Author:  [@Captain\_Gnarlock](https://tarck.cc/u/Captain_Gnarlock)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2009, 1:15am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178/22 "2009-01-16T01:15:55Z")
> [@halbritt](#):
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> Decided, or already bought?
boughten and dropped off @ Montano Velo for a checkup. It’s a designer '84 with full Campy gruppo, silver/gray with chrome fork and stays. Columbus SLX. The ride is like… I can’t even explain it. So much zen.
Looks not unlike this.
Now to begin the partyfowl conversion.
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### Author:  [@halbritt](https://tarck.cc/u/halbritt)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2009, 1:17am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178/23 "2009-01-16T01:17:53Z")
I have so much envy.
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### Author:  [@tzusing](https://tarck.cc/u/tzusing)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178/24 "2009-01-16T01:34:33Z")
my prototype. I was on the fence about posting this, but since this topic came up.
the head tube angle in this pic is 73. My new sample will be 74. Please keep this in tarck bike only. 1 1/8 steerer.
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### Author:  [@Whippin\_Skidz](https://tarck.cc/u/Whippin_Skidz)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2009, 1:52am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178/25 "2009-01-16T01:52:58Z")
Can we get some more secret info about these new frames? Cost? Expected release date? Fork? Specs?
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### Author:  [@Tail\_Hook\_Lengthener](https://tarck.cc/u/Tail_Hook_Lengthener)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2009, 1:59am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178/26 "2009-01-16T01:59:50Z")
I’ve said it a zillion times, but the first person to churn out an inexpensive and widely available Pista Concept knock-off is going to make a fortune.
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### Author:  [@Captain\_Gnarlock](https://tarck.cc/u/Captain_Gnarlock)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2009, 2:16am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178/27 "2009-01-16T02:16:21Z")
> [@halbritt](#):
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> I have so much envy.
it’s gona look sick with Patch’s lime green veeps on there.
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### Author:  [@Whippin\_Skidz](https://tarck.cc/u/Whippin_Skidz)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2009, 2:23am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178/28 "2009-01-16T02:23:45Z")
> [@bonechilling](#):
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> I’ve said it a zillion times, but the first person to churn out an inexpensive and widely available Pista Concept knock-off is going to make a fortune.
I know. I’m really surprised NO ONE came out with one this past year, with the Concept being as hot as it was. I’m sure it takes time for factories to get frames/bikes drawn, tooled, built, and shipped, but c’mon!
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### Author:  [@Cap-Cap](https://tarck.cc/u/Cap-Cap)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2009, 4:08am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178/29 "2009-01-16T04:08:25Z")
jet black isnt too bad, but god damn the stealth grey is horrible
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### Author:  [@edw](https://tarck.cc/u/edw)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2009, 4:15am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178/30 "2009-01-16T04:15:01Z")
> [@jim](#):
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> [quote=“bonechilling”]I’ve said it a zillion times, but the first person to churn out an inexpensive and widely available Pista Concept knock-off is going to make a fortune.
I know. I’m really surprised NO ONE came out with one this past year, with the Concept being as hot as it was. I’m sure it takes time for factories to get frames/bikes drawn, tooled, built, and shipped, but c’mon![/quote]
I feel like [this](http://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_STOR20.cgi?Action=Details&ProdID=1277) comes painfully close but misses by just a bit
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### Author:  [@zombie](https://tarck.cc/u/zombie)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2009, 4:17am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178/31 "2009-01-16T04:17:52Z")
> [@edw](#):
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> [quote=“jim”][quote=“bonechilling”]I’ve said it a zillion times, but the first person to churn out an inexpensive and widely available Pista Concept knock-off is going to make a fortune.
I know. I’m really surprised NO ONE came out with one this past year, with the Concept being as hot as it was. I’m sure it takes time for factories to get frames/bikes drawn, tooled, built, and shipped, but c’mon![/quote]
I feel like [this](http://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_STOR20.cgi?Action=Details&ProdID=1277) comes painfully close but misses by just a bit[/quote]
kids want seattube cut-outs.
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### Author:  [@edw](https://tarck.cc/u/edw)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178/32 "2009-01-16T04:20:10Z")
and they don’t want cable stops, fender mounts and cage mounts x2. So close but yet so far.
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### Author:  [@Tail\_Hook\_Lengthener](https://tarck.cc/u/Tail_Hook_Lengthener)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2009, 5:04am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178/33 "2009-01-16T05:04:45Z")
> [@edw](#):
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> I feel like [this](http://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_STOR20.cgi?Action=Details&ProdID=1277) comes painfully close but misses by just a bit
No way - the Bikes Direct guy just ordered that one straight out of a catalog. If you poke around on Google, you can find whole websites where intermediaries connect would-be American bike “manufacturers” with the Chinese and Taiwanese factories that produce that junk. The only thing that bike has in common with a Pista Concept is the fact that they both have aluminum frames.
Thing is, I think that the Bikes Direct guy heard people on BF calling for an aluminum track frame, but isn’t bright enough to know that this isn’t what they meant.
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### Author:  [@tzusing](https://tarck.cc/u/tzusing)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2009, 6:33am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178/34 "2009-01-16T06:33:20Z")
> [@jim](#):
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> [quote=“bonechilling”]I’ve said it a zillion times, but the first person to churn out an inexpensive and widely available Pista Concept knock-off is going to make a fortune.
I know. I’m really surprised NO ONE came out with one this past year, with the Concept being as hot as it was. I’m sure it takes time for factories to get frames/bikes drawn, tooled, built, and shipped, but c’mon![/quote]
Molds cost a lot of money and welding on the concept is nice as well. It isn’t a cheap bike to make, i’m sure you won’t see anything at this level go for cheap. Especially for smaller companies that don’t do the type of quantities that bigger companies do, the tooling/molding cost are way too high to make it any cheaper.
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### Author:  [@Tail\_Hook\_Lengthener](https://tarck.cc/u/Tail_Hook_Lengthener)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178/35 "2009-01-16T13:30:52Z")
The problem isn’t that the Concept is expensive, it’s that it’s not available anywhere.
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### Author:  [@waychel](https://tarck.cc/u/waychel)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178/36 "2009-01-16T15:25:47Z")
[quote=“tzusing”]my prototype. I was on the fence about posting this, but since this topic came up.
the head tube angle in this pic is 73. My new sample will be 74. Please keep this in tarck bike only. 1 1/8 steerer.[/quote]
Looks nice, but what’s the fork going to be?
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### Author:  [@dillybars](https://tarck.cc/u/dillybars)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/open-cannondale-capo-discussion/12178/37 "2009-01-16T16:08:49Z")
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