# Small bikes that aren't horrible compromises

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**Category:** Bikes\
**Created:** [October 8, 2018, 3:37am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038 "2018-10-08T03:37:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![earwig](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/earwig/32/15729_2.png) [@earwig](https://tarck.cc/u/earwig)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 12:09am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/41 "2018-11-08T00:09:26Z")

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Cool. Is that the standard small NFE or custom extra small?

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**Author:** ![Eddbread](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Eddbread](https://tarck.cc/u/Eddbread)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 12:24am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/42 "2018-11-08T00:24:27Z")

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According to Glen

_Yes! We built our first batch of XS NFE’s. The XS takes 26” (559mm) wheels and costs $1550. [Here’s a picture of Pricilla’s XS NFE](http://www.elephantbikes.com/uploads/XS_NFE_Yi.jpg). Email us if you want more info on that._

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**Author:** ![Eddbread](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Eddbread](https://tarck.cc/u/Eddbread)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 1:36am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/43 "2018-11-15T01:36:53Z")

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> **[Four 2017 DNFA/Bikepacking Bikes Shorties can be Excited About](https://shortbikelife.com/2017/12/06/four-2017-dnfa-bikepacking-bikes-shorties-can-be-excited-about/)**
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> Shorties tend to get a lot less bike love then the average height’d, even less when it comes to what I have termed a Does Not F\*ck Around Bike. You know, what you can take down a shitty middl…

Not applicable to me but

Is this yay or nay?  
 ![](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/2X/7/7470fd168527596661aec87c66d51c6cbdcc0808.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![capn\_FANCYpants](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/capn_fancypants/32/27037_2.png) [@capn\_FANCYpants](https://tarck.cc/u/capn_FANCYpants)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/44 "2018-11-19T23:23:09Z")

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That’s my friend Monica’s blog. Speaking of, she’s selling her XS NFE frame for $700. I’m thinking about buying it and making that my adventure bike (instead of the surly.) Is 700 a fair price for the frame? (It’s the bike from the thumbnail image.)

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**Author:** ![turpentine](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/turpentine/32/51348_2.png) [@turpentine](https://tarck.cc/u/turpentine)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/45 "2018-11-19T23:36:15Z")

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It’s a good enough deal that you’re paying less than retail but the seller isn’t taking a bath.

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**Author:** ![Eddbread](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Eddbread](https://tarck.cc/u/Eddbread)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 11:47pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/46 "2018-11-19T23:47:14Z")

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Is she including the headset & BB? If no, maybe 650 - 670? But yeah 700 for a used XS Elephant sounds about right.

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**Author:** ![Rusty\_Piton](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/rusty_piton/32/579_2.png) [@Rusty\_Piton](https://tarck.cc/u/Rusty_Piton)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 11:47pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/47 "2018-11-19T23:47:24Z")

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Yeah, if you like it, go for it!

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**Author:** ![Andrew\_Squirrel](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/andrew_squirrel/32/57_2.png) [@Andrew\_Squirrel](https://tarck.cc/u/Andrew_Squirrel)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/48 "2018-11-20T00:56:11Z")

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Yeah, I was half tempted to buy that for sup but she doesn’t really ride bikes so it will live a better life with someone that will love and use it.

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**Author:** ![todd\_bonzalez](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/todd_bonzalez/32/23476_2.png) [@todd\_bonzalez](https://tarck.cc/u/todd_bonzalez)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 1:02am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/49 "2018-11-20T01:02:30Z")

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I was strongly encouraging you to buy it and I will publicly state my willingness to build the bike for you, sans wheels (my wrists are too fucked up to build wheels for a while). You could also stick the 650b wheels on there and see how it rides. I suspect that it would be fine.

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**Author:** ![EndpointBraden](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/endpointbraden/32/22101_2.png) [@EndpointBraden](https://tarck.cc/u/EndpointBraden)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 1:03am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/50 "2018-11-20T01:03:24Z")

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> [@capn\_FANCYpants](#):
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> That’s my friend Monica’s blog. Speaking of, she’s selling her XS NFE frame for $700. I’m thinking about buying it and making that my adventure bike (instead of the surly.) Is 700 a fair price for the frame? (It’s the bike from the thumbnail image.)

What doesn’t she like about it?

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**Author:** ![karl\_dandleton](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/karl_dandleton/32/177_2.png) [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 1:19am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/51 "2018-11-20T01:19:52Z")

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if i were xs, i would do it. atmo that’s the kind of frame that goes for around 700 used, then goes for around 700 used again unless it’s got some damage that flex tape can’t handle

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**Author:** ![panda\_heavy\_metal](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/panda_heavy_metal/32/37770_2.png) [@panda\_heavy\_metal](https://tarck.cc/u/panda_heavy_metal)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 2:33am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/52 "2018-11-20T02:33:30Z")

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I want it for sup but it makes more sense for Marley to have it. Saves the seller from shipping to prison island…

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**Author:** ![JUGE\_FREDD](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/juge_fredd/32/34623_2.png) [@JUGE\_FREDD](https://tarck.cc/u/JUGE_FREDD)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 11:12am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/53 "2018-11-20T11:12:38Z")

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> [@todd\_bonzalez](#):
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> You could also stick the 650b wheels on there and see how it rides. I suspect that it would be fine.

yes, Marley’s current wheels/tires would fit fine

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**Author:** ![capn\_FANCYpants](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/capn_fancypants/32/27037_2.png) [@capn\_FANCYpants](https://tarck.cc/u/capn_FANCYpants)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/54 "2018-11-20T14:57:04Z")

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> [@EndpointBraden](#):
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> What doesn’t she like about it?

Sounds like she wanted a bike that was designed for upright bars (instead of drops.) She’s getting a full custom frame built by 333.

The frame is apparently dented in 2 spots from shipping. That makes me a bit nervous.

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**Author:** ![Orc](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/orc/32/2244_2.png) [@Orc](https://tarck.cc/u/Orc)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/55 "2018-11-20T14:57:52Z")

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Do you know where and how large the dents are?

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**Author:** ![todd\_bonzalez](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/todd_bonzalez/32/23476_2.png) [@todd\_bonzalez](https://tarck.cc/u/todd_bonzalez)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/56 "2018-11-20T15:03:09Z")

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> [@capn\_FANCYpants](#):
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> The frame is apparently dented in 2 spots from shipping. That makes me a bit nervous.

Maybe have Ben look it over for you? Or use this to negotiate the price down a little bit?

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**Author:** ![capn\_FANCYpants](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/capn_fancypants/32/27037_2.png) [@capn\_FANCYpants](https://tarck.cc/u/capn_FANCYpants)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/57 "2018-11-20T17:47:24Z")

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The dents are on the down tube. She said she had it inspected by 2 shops who both said it was fine.

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**Author:** ![viggen](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/viggen/32/711_2.png) [@viggen](https://tarck.cc/u/viggen)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/58 "2018-11-20T17:52:29Z")

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Go for it but at a slightly lower price than 700 since actually dented, though only “cosmetic”.

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**Author:** ![todd\_bonzalez](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/todd_bonzalez/32/23476_2.png) [@todd\_bonzalez](https://tarck.cc/u/todd_bonzalez)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/59 "2018-11-20T20:41:55Z")

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Don’t you know like five people who could roll the dents out for you? Maybe get a quote from Hahn and see if Monica will subtract that from the price.

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**Author:** ![Andrew\_Squirrel](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/andrew_squirrel/32/57_2.png) [@Andrew\_Squirrel](https://tarck.cc/u/Andrew_Squirrel)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 1:09am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/small-bikes-that-arent-horrible-compromises/22038/60 "2018-11-21T01:09:54Z")

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Technically the bike has 4 dents, why would you get 2 of them rolled out?

 ![dents](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/2X/8/87866baecbb7c5db2665078bb7918affbe496606.jpeg)

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