# Souplesse Casings and Bike Soup - The Tire Thread
**URL:** https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52
**Category:** Bikes
**Created:** [August 1, 2018, 11:55am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52 "2018-08-01T11:55:05Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@ergott](https://tarck.cc/u/ergott)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/101 "2018-08-15T17:59:13Z")
> [@Rusty\_Piton](#):
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> > [@ergott](#):
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> > there’s a film on the blue that makes it harder for me to press into the center channel as I stretch it around rim. It grabs the rag and is very annoying
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> I have not noticed this at all.
Could have been the batch/supplier. The blue I’ve used came from Pacenti. It’s not something you can really see it’s just something that grabs at the rag a bit. When I’ve done a bunch of wheels in a row you see some white, waxy film on the rag.
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### Author:  [@Straws](https://tarck.cc/u/Straws)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/102 "2018-08-15T18:41:49Z")
I know I’m alone in this one but I only do one layer of stans tape. I haven’t used 8898 yet so not sure how it compares in thickness.
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### Author:  [@dfl](https://tarck.cc/u/dfl)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2018, 6:44pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/103 "2018-08-15T18:44:30Z")
One layer cru checking in.
True confessions: the 35mm internal width rims on my Ibis have like one layer of 25mm tape that covers the spoke holes and the channel in the middle, but doesn’t go to the edges. Works fine.
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### Author:  [@ergott](https://tarck.cc/u/ergott)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/104 "2018-08-15T18:59:39Z")
One layer will fail at skinny tire pressure
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### Author:  [@theKearney](https://tarck.cc/u/theKearney)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/105 "2018-08-15T19:32:26Z")
The only thing I have to add to this thread is: do not use the new finish line crap that promises it’ll stay wet for the life of the tire. It simply will not seal any supple tires, and I have my doubts about it sealing heavier duty tires too. Stores keep stocking this shit, and people keep buying it, but right out of finish line’s own rep’s mouth - it won’t seal “supple” tires.
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### Author:  [@Crustradamus](https://tarck.cc/u/Crustradamus)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2018, 10:56pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/106 "2018-08-15T22:56:57Z")
Yeah this is gonna be a 2 wrap minimum job. Wow this stuff is thin. I might do gorilla tape with one layer of this on top so the gorilla tape doesn’t absorb the goop.
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### Author:  [@Straws](https://tarck.cc/u/Straws)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/107 "2018-08-15T23:16:43Z")
just do a triple wrap, don’t fuck with gorilla tape.
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### Author:  [@tehschkott](https://tarck.cc/u/tehschkott)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/108 "2018-08-15T23:24:59Z")
Just use packing wrap and Scotch tape. YOLO.
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### Author:  [@Crustradamus](https://tarck.cc/u/Crustradamus)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/109 "2018-08-15T23:43:42Z")
Been fucking with gorilla tape since 2014. This looks super flimsy in comparison.
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### Author:  [@turpentine](https://tarck.cc/u/turpentine)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2018, 12:20am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/110 "2018-08-16T00:20:54Z")
Gorilla tape is not as good. I been fuckin with both for a long time.
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### Author:  [@BEEutiful\_Wednesday\_DDS](https://tarck.cc/u/BEEutiful_Wednesday_DDS)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/111 "2018-08-16T00:23:45Z")
i use the blue stuff aka tarck special tape 8896 aka rusty’s sex tape
two wraps minimum. shit weighs almost nothing, why skimp on one extra wrap?
“sealant injector” problem is solved by buying the 8oz size of orange seal, which comes with a fantastic little squirter complete with flexible plastic tube. i’ve been using that for three years. just wash it out with hot water instantly after using it and it stays running clean.
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### Author:  [@Crustradamus](https://tarck.cc/u/Crustradamus)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/112 "2018-08-16T00:50:23Z")
Just seems like I’d need about 5 wraps to equal the density of one layer of gorilla tape. Don’t care about weight at all.
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### Author:  [@frank\_doktor](https://tarck.cc/u/frank_doktor)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2018, 1:11am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/113 "2018-08-16T01:11:21Z")
Just because you were using gorilla tape didn’t mean you needed to use gorilla tape (for the depth of it).
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### Author:  [@Straws](https://tarck.cc/u/Straws)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/114 "2018-08-16T01:13:48Z")
Oh yeah man you don’t need the thickness of gorilla tape. The reason it’s used as a kludge is for the strength of the glue and tape.
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### Author:  [@Crustradamus](https://tarck.cc/u/Crustradamus)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2018, 1:31am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/115 "2018-08-16T01:31:54Z")
It is just what I know and seems in my biased experience that tires would be less secure on something else (slightly smaller bead radius and less coarse). It has never really done me wrong but I wish to investigate the other options to know for myself. Thought maybe two tape combo would be an interesting experiment. Kind of use the strengths of each–toughness of gorilla tape and non-porousness of the 3M.
I don’t yet consider gorilla tape a kludge but maybe after this I will?
edit: I’m using this on carbon rims and am reading that it doesn’t stick very well. Uh-oh.
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### Author:  [@VT\_regularbike](https://tarck.cc/u/VT_regularbike)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/116 "2018-08-16T02:46:06Z")
TESA 4289 is the other non stans brand strap tape that’s available from multiple sellers on eBay.
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### Author:  [@Crustradamus](https://tarck.cc/u/Crustradamus)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2018, 3:01am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/117 "2018-08-16T03:01:18Z")
O ya just came here to ask about it.
> **[Tesa 4289 NoTubes Yellow Tubeless rim tape 23mm x 66meter | eBay](https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tesa-4289-NoTubes-Yellow-Tubeless-rim-tape-23mm-x-66meter/153119441934?hash=item23a6a1440e:g:aLIAAOSw-U1aUhgM)**
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> Tesa 4289 NoTubes Yellow Tubeless rim tape 23mm x 66meter | Sporting Goods, Cycling, Bike Maintenance & Tools | eBay!
So this is the 100% Stans match yeah?
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### Author:  [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2018, 3:05am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/118 "2018-08-16T03:05:57Z")
in my experience, 4289 is definitely stans. or stans is definitely 4289.
spider man pointing at spider man .jpg
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### Author:  [@Crustradamus](https://tarck.cc/u/Crustradamus)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2018, 3:20am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/119 "2018-08-16T03:20:02Z")
okey doke. good info!
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### Author:  [@todd\_bonzalez](https://tarck.cc/u/todd_bonzalez)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2018, 3:39am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/souplesse-casings-and-bike-soup-the-tire-thread/52/120 "2018-08-16T03:39:56Z")
> [@turpentine](#):
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> Gorilla tape is not as good. I been fuckin with both for a long time.
Truth. Eventually sealant will get under the Gorilla tape and it’ll start to come loose, and then you’re stuck cleaning up gummy tape residue from the inside of your flat tire. I hate that shit and I don’t understand the appeal when competing products are demonstrably cheaper and work better.
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