Souplesse Casings and Bike Soup - The Tire Thread

I have an old pair of Specialized Ground Controls 27.5x3.0 that seem like they’re weeping from a bunch of pinpoints in the sidewalls. I’m running Orange Seal Endurance. Is there another sealant that would solve this (non-Endurance?)? Or are these tires just shot?

If they are shot, does anyone run 27.5 x 3.0 tires that they really like? Otherwise, I’m just gonna go Ground Controls again if these won’t seal, cuz <$50. Maybe spend a little more and get Purgatory?

Take it off bike and shake wheel while it is horizontal with the pinholes at the far end of the wheel from your body. Slosh slosh slosh that stuff onto the holes.

I’m too lazy to shake it. I give it some back spin and just bounce it like a basketball so it splashed around inside.

But Orange Seal Endurance is what I would want for this procedure? I just ran out so looking to buy either more endurance or the regular.

I’ve had tires that would be fine for a while, then start to weep no matter how much sealant I put in.

I’m guessing the sealant breaks down the rubber in the sidewall over time. I’ve seen non-tubeless tires do the same thing.

If I can keep a years old Compass EL sealed, you got this. I wouldn’t think too hard about which sealant as long as it isn’t Finish Line.

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You losing air or just the weeping? I installed an old Butcher on sup’s bike while new tires came in. They def weeped, but were solid otherwise.

Losing air. I sprayed with soapy water and there are tiny pinprick bubbles all over the sidewall up by the tread. Might be high volume low pressure tires + big dude + age of tires (gotta be like 4-5yo at this point)?

I think I’d be better off throwing new Purgatories on there and stop trying to make this shit work. This bike with more tread might be pretty fun?

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But did you give them the tubeless wiggle dance yet?

He’s dancing around the question.

If I can keep these running…

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I DANCED. I BOUNCED. I ROCKED. I ROLLED.

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You believed in Santa Claus and the Easter bunny for like 8 years, you can believe in yourself and these tires for the next 11 miles.

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I like the new purgatory tread quite a bit. And they should be the same price, no?

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I don’t strongly dislike them, just won’t buy again.

Most things have already been said, but i’ll add that most of my riding currently is grav grav and I just don’t have much confidence taking turns with any speed. They roll OK on pavement, but overall I feel like the Byways were just as good on pavement and better on dirt/grav.

On the plus side I do suspect the Ramparts have a big bigger sweet spot in terms of tire pressure. I don’t religiously monitor tire pressure, I just pump back up when the ride feels too sketchy. And I’m pumping up less frequently on Ramparts than on Byways.

Probably silly and pedantic but wondering what folks consider the better tubeless sealant/plugger system now. Seems like you now choose orange seal and dyna plug or stans and stans dart.

Say you are beginning your tubeless life with no existing infrastructure on a road setup, what do you choose?

What size tyres

32mm and sup has horizons so hopefully we can tubeless her wheels too

Probably orange seal. I like @EndpointBraden’s plan to set up with regular and then fill with endurance for long term. No point messing with bacon strips and such for gravé tires atmo. Stick tube in and call it a day if you flat.

I went back to Stans on my giant mtb tires but it is too soon for me to have observed any differences.

We do the opposite…Endurance first to coat. Top off with regular because larger particles to plug.

Oh whoops. I thought that you were using Endurance second since that is allegedly the one that resists drying up longer.