# TAF, JA, or just WTH?
**URL:** https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654
**Category:** Bikes
**Created:** [August 7, 2018, 1:03pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654 "2018-08-07T13:03:54Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 359
### Author:  [@BEEutiful\_Wednesday\_DDS](https://tarck.cc/u/BEEutiful_Wednesday_DDS)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 2:44am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7191 "2025-02-04T02:44:22Z")
i have always hated this bike and it made me hate van dessel. and then i ended up with a van dessel through a weird trade and hated it too and sold it.
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### Author:  [@wickedwagon](https://tarck.cc/u/wickedwagon)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 2:45am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7192 "2025-02-04T02:45:32Z")
> [@Perlhammered](#):
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This pic better be from 10 years ago
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### Author:  [@jimmythefly](https://tarck.cc/u/jimmythefly)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 5:10am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7193 "2025-02-04T05:10:39Z")
> [@BicyclePears](#):
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> van dessel wtf makes a surly feel like a wiggle rando bike. an astonishingly heavy frameset.
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> edit: the frame pump placement makes me want to no longer be around.
Backed, the one I briefly owned was impressively heavy.
This was back when if you wanted to run something like 700x48 + fenders + disc brakes + drop bars there were very few options.
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### Author:  [@Bootus](https://tarck.cc/u/Bootus)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 1:23pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7194 "2025-02-04T13:23:59Z")
> [@Orc](#):
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> Well, that’s certainly a bicycle; it’s impressive how the ergo bars are not the most offensive things in that picture.
Ergo bars 🤝 ergo down tube
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### Author:  [@BicyclePears](https://tarck.cc/u/BicyclePears)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 8:31pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7195 "2025-02-04T20:31:54Z")
> [@BicyclePears](#):
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> unforgivable.
lol im currently having a conversation with the dude who designed this bike.
he said that Sheldon Brown hated this bike and told him that their shop would never stock one.
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### Author:  [@jame5on](https://tarck.cc/u/jame5on)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 8:39pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7196 "2025-02-04T20:39:49Z")
> [@asterisk](#):
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> Country Road Bob
there are like 3 or 4 completely different versions over the years, less swoopy and double diamond
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### Author:  [@Shamp](https://tarck.cc/u/Shamp)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7197 "2025-02-04T21:08:30Z")
If Sheldon hated it you really fucked up, no coming back from that
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### Author:  [@earwig](https://tarck.cc/u/earwig)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 9:29pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7198 "2025-02-04T21:29:57Z")
Why do we still not have a Sheldon Brown react emoji? Can we replace :max:
with
?
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### Author:  [@Shamp](https://tarck.cc/u/Shamp)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7199 "2025-02-04T21:38:15Z")
Those have two completely different uses
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### Author:  [@earwig](https://tarck.cc/u/earwig)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 9:39pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7200 "2025-02-04T21:39:47Z")
I still haven’t figured out a use for Max.
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### Author:  [@paris](https://tarck.cc/u/paris)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 9:44pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7201 "2025-02-04T21:44:48Z")
I look forward to the day when I have to decide between the Grant emoji and the Sheldon emoji.
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### Author:  [@akasnowmaaan](https://tarck.cc/u/akasnowmaaan)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 9:45pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7202 "2025-02-04T21:45:11Z")
Max is just a happy guy, enjoying bikes. Living the best life.
Maybe you can help me with the cowboy? Is he just nonplussed?
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### Author:  [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 9:46pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7203 "2025-02-04T21:46:57Z")
# 🦅
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### Author:  [@cheese](https://tarck.cc/u/cheese)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 9:52pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7204 "2025-02-04T21:52:18Z")
he’s grim
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### Author:  [@Shamp](https://tarck.cc/u/Shamp)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 9:53pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7205 "2025-02-04T21:53:54Z")
Grim cowboy, for bad news and awful things.
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### Author:  [@akasnowmaaan](https://tarck.cc/u/akasnowmaaan)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 9:55pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7206 "2025-02-04T21:55:06Z")
Gotcha, ty.
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### Author:  [@BicyclePears](https://tarck.cc/u/BicyclePears)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 10:21pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7207 "2025-02-04T22:21:09Z")
oh see i thought the cowboy was “im cringing because of what youve done but yee haw you should continue doing what youre doing i guess”
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### Author:  [@jame5on](https://tarck.cc/u/jame5on)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 10:45pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7208 "2025-02-04T22:45:23Z")
when i cowboy you it means we 'are fighting
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### Author:  [@Shamp](https://tarck.cc/u/Shamp)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 10:50pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7209 "2025-02-04T22:50:01Z")
No that’s what :colbert: is for
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### Author:  [@Dickason\_Daniel](https://tarck.cc/u/Dickason_Daniel)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2025, 11:06pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/7210 "2025-02-04T23:06:23Z")
The grim cowboy is a uniquely American relentless darkness _Blood Meridian_ vibe.
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