# TAF, JA, or just WTH?

**URL:** <https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654>\
**Category:** Bikes\
**Created:** [August 7, 2018, 1:03pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654 "2018-08-07T13:03:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jame5on](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jame5on/32/81952_2.png) [@jame5on](https://tarck.cc/u/jame5on)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 6:19am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8897 "2026-09-24T06:19:06Z")

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Light mount is a crime

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**Author:** ![panda\_heavy\_metal](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/panda_heavy_metal/32/37770_2.png) [@panda\_heavy\_metal](https://tarck.cc/u/panda_heavy_metal)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 6:37am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8898 "2026-09-24T06:37:52Z")

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Looks ungainly but is probably that far out to reduce wheel shadow. There must surely be a more elegant solution though…

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**Author:** ![werdna](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/werdna/32/141161_2.png) [@werdna](https://tarck.cc/u/werdna)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 10:45am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8899 "2026-09-24T10:45:59Z")

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I’m curious about how usable this setup of short pull levers with v-brakes is without any adapters

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**Author:** ![frikki](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/frikki/32/155243_2.png) [@frikki](https://tarck.cc/u/frikki)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 12:27pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8900 "2026-09-24T12:27:25Z")

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recession indicator.

but seriously, i think it’s neat, which barcons are shifting the 11s GRX, is that some microshift offering?

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**Author:** ![drwelby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/drwelby/32/142_2.png) [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 2:10pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8901 "2026-09-24T14:10:15Z")

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If you zoom in on the levers it looks like they’ve been modified to reduce the leverage

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**Author:** ![Nasho](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/nasho/32/152419_2.png) [@Nasho](https://tarck.cc/u/Nasho)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2026, 8:51pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8902 "2026-09-25T20:51:47Z")

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[https://theradavist.com/bazaar/item/4yeDPKBcfA9ouu58f9p0](https://theradavist.com/bazaar/item/4yeDPKBcfA9ouu58f9p0)

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**Author:** ![LASER\_BEIGE](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/laser_beige/32/152421_2.png) [@LASER\_BEIGE](https://tarck.cc/u/LASER_BEIGE)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2026, 9:00pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8903 "2026-09-25T21:00:47Z")

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Gotta be a joke

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**Author:** ![euclid](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/euclid/32/37780_2.png) [@euclid](https://tarck.cc/u/euclid)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2026, 9:07pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8904 "2026-09-25T21:07:24Z")

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Where are the spd cleats?

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**Author:** ![Horse\_Mafia](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/horse_mafia/32/16130_2.png) [@Horse\_Mafia](https://tarck.cc/u/Horse_Mafia)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2026, 12:15am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8905 "2026-09-26T00:15:03Z")

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gotta be

[https://theradavist.com/bazaar/item/UVdHhPk3T0weoFyP8Px9](https://theradavist.com/bazaar/item/UVdHhPk3T0weoFyP8Px9)

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**Author:** ![runwhatyabrung](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/runwhatyabrung/32/143876_2.png) [@runwhatyabrung](https://tarck.cc/u/runwhatyabrung)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2026, 9:23pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8906 "2026-09-29T21:23:40Z")

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This is the same guy who thinks he invented the 29er… who is now so unbelievably insufferable about 32” wheels despite never owning one. He offers all sorts of profoundly kooky “advice” on “bike geometry”. And his custom Marino just showed up. I’m sorry but the schadenfreude is too real.

[https://www.reddit.com/r/32inchbikes/s/cXpjUzNrkI](https://www.reddit.com/r/32inchbikes/s/cXpjUzNrkI)

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**Author:** ![frikki](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/frikki/32/155243_2.png) [@frikki](https://tarck.cc/u/frikki)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2026, 9:55pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8907 "2026-09-29T21:55:13Z")

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AI training data

horror

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**Author:** ![jimmythefly](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jimmythefly/32/36079_2.png) [@jimmythefly](https://tarck.cc/u/jimmythefly)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2026, 9:57pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8908 "2026-09-29T21:57:04Z")

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Oh man I haven’t seen that name in a long time, I recall it from MTBR forums days.

That is a huge stack of stuff inside the dropout face, but I’m unfamiliar with all the ins and outs of the UDH system, is that normal?

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**Author:** ![drwelby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/drwelby/32/142_2.png) [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2026, 10:18pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8909 "2026-09-29T22:18:49Z")

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The UDGH insert adds a bunch of width, and the Allotec folks copying the original Paragon sliders just let it push the whole stack wider.

Paragon’s insert ended up mounting to the outside of the dropout, but then lost most of its ability to slide.

 ![image](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/a/2/a214e7e1790ac645757b4c3f064ebac02d97a9a0.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![oogens](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/oogens/32/83087_2.png) [@oogens](https://tarck.cc/u/oogens)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2026, 10:24pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8910 "2026-09-29T22:24:25Z")

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Homercar-ass dropouts

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**Author:** ![BicyclePears](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/bicyclepears/32/1266_2.png) [@BicyclePears](https://tarck.cc/u/BicyclePears)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2026, 10:32pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8911 "2026-09-29T22:32:23Z")

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> [@runwhatyabrung](#):
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> This is the same guy who thinks he invented the 29er… who is now so unbelievably insufferable about 32” wheels despite never owning one. He offers all sorts of profoundly kooky “advice” on “bike geometry”. And his custom Marino just showed up. I’m sorry but the schadenfreude is too real.

Lol at thinking a $600 Marino 32er was going to be anything but a piece of dog shit.

I love this.

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**Author:** ![BicyclePears](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/bicyclepears/32/1266_2.png) [@BicyclePears](https://tarck.cc/u/BicyclePears)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2026, 10:37pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8912 "2026-09-29T22:37:09Z")

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Marino totally did that surprise UDH dropouts shit on our Pubes Enforcer run too. Never for a moment did we request UDH and the prototype did not come with them but I’m pretty sure all production frames did.

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**Author:** ![stumphumper](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/stumphumper/32/160851_2.png) [@stumphumper](https://tarck.cc/u/stumphumper)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2026, 11:21pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8913 "2026-09-29T23:21:58Z")

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> [@jame5on](#):
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> their whole identity is that they make rear triangles wrong

they really need to combine those seatstays with the chainstays from the Allied Able

 ![allied-able-review_main](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/8/f/8f407b278ebf7a880d68983c684098ac51a22e2f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Crustradamus](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/crustradamus/32/7841_2.png) [@Crustradamus](https://tarck.cc/u/Crustradamus)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2026, 11:44pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8914 "2026-09-29T23:44:49Z")

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> [@jimmythefly](#):
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> Oh man I haven’t seen that name in a long time, I recall it from MTBR forums days. That is a huge stack of stuff inside the dropout face, but I’m unfamiliar with all the ins and outs of the UDH system, is that normal?

I need some anthropological info on mtbr. So many insufferable sounding people.

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**Author:** ![jame5on](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jame5on/32/81952_2.png) [@jame5on](https://tarck.cc/u/jame5on)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2026, 11:45pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8915 "2026-09-29T23:45:11Z")

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How to make a frame look heavier?

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**Author:** ![yonderboy](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/yonderboy/32/159376_2.png) [@yonderboy](https://tarck.cc/u/yonderboy)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2026, 1:37am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/taf-ja-or-just-wth/21654/8916 "2026-09-30T01:37:56Z")

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I saw a SE Colossal Ripper 32" today. It was even weirder than I expected.

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