# The Rivendell Rage Reader: A thread for the pure joy of hating on Grant P **URL:** \ **Category:** Bikes\ **Created:** [May 25, 2022, 1:52pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339 "2022-05-25T13:52:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Banjo](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/banjo/32/46308_2.png) [@Banjo](https://tarck.cc/u/Banjo)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 7:30pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/21 "2022-05-25T19:30:56Z")
He was trying to spare me walking home the morning after in my Halloween costume and I kept the Dickies and Keens and tall cotton socks. ---
**Author:** ![jame5on](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jame5on/32/81952_2.png) [@jame5on](https://tarck.cc/u/jame5on)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/22 "2022-05-25T19:32:06Z")
glad you got something valuable from him. ---
**Author:** ![Rent-to-own-Faxmachine](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/rent-to-own-faxmachine/32/80299_2.png) [@Rent-to-own-Faxmachine](https://tarck.cc/u/Rent-to-own-Faxmachine)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 8:05pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/23 "2022-05-25T20:05:53Z")
> **["Special" Blahg. Response to 'SPECIAL" IG](https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/special-blahg-response-to-ig)** > > This cause shit to hit fan: I'm really upset over this, but then...Texas perspective. This doesn't matter., but I write it before I heard that, and so... I really had no idea, was so naïve, out of step with the times, no doubt. I blame it on... ---
**Author:** ![featherduster](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/featherduster/32/152369_2.png) [@featherduster](https://tarck.cc/u/featherduster)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/24 "2022-05-25T20:06:42Z")
a couple lines popped to highlight what welby is getting it I think > We do our thing and are no better than you just because it’s not your thing. No worse, either. Grant is making fun of roadies the way that roadies have been making fun of “regular people riding bikes”. He’s mirroring their dipshit behavior to illustrate how whack it is. > Your mileage may vary. I get that. he’s not offering something better than yours. he’s offering something else than yours. take it or leave it. ---
**Author:** ![deathlyfrantic](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/deathlyfrantic/32/603_2.png) [@deathlyfrantic](https://tarck.cc/u/deathlyfrantic)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/25 "2022-05-25T20:34:28Z")
> [@featherduster](#): > > Grant is making fun of roadies the way that roadies have been making fun of “regular people riding bikes”. He’s mirroring their dipshit behavior to illustrate how whack it is. Is this still a thing, though? Admittedly I don’t hang out with roadies (or other people in general) but I haven’t seen this attitude expressed in many, many years. ---
**Author:** ![featherduster](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/featherduster/32/152369_2.png) [@featherduster](https://tarck.cc/u/featherduster)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/26 "2022-05-25T20:37:24Z")
welcome back 😏 it’s not a thing but it’s still a thing remember, to an old fart yesterday was 1991 ---
**Author:** ![EndpointBraden](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/endpointbraden/32/22101_2.png) [@EndpointBraden](https://tarck.cc/u/EndpointBraden)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 10:36pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/27 "2022-05-25T22:36:36Z")
> [@drwelby](#): > > except he’s not, you’re trying to take a something that’s more like a koan into a edict LOL nope. How about “if you need an ebike to keep up you should quit” “If you can’t ride XX Miles you’re too unhealthy” Pubes is doing a better job (as usual) with his of course. I really don’t get why you’re defending this boomer jackass and his obvious trolling. I don’t think anyone here is offended by (or surprised by) anything Grant says. I think the sentiment is more of shock at how transparent and hypocritical his nonsense is and yet people still line up to defend it. I’m not mad. I think it’s hilarious ---
**Author:** ![drwelby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/drwelby/32/142_2.png) [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 10:47pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/28 "2022-05-25T22:47:30Z")
> [@EndpointBraden](#): > > How about “if you need an ebike to keep up you should quit” He’s specifically not about keeping up > [@](#): > > “If you can’t ride XX Miles you’re too unhealthy” He’s also specifically about short rides are just as good as long rides ---
**Author:** ![jame5on](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jame5on/32/81952_2.png) [@jame5on](https://tarck.cc/u/jame5on)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 10:58pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/29 "2022-05-25T22:58:13Z")
I want all the bikes. I want all the bike ideas. I want to read about all the bikes. I want everyone to ride bikes all the time. If someone is wrong about bikes I am better for having engaged with their wrong idea and come to my own conclusion. That said I don’t need a frame that weighs 2 surlys and costs 4 surlys but I do like knowing where to look when I want a choice of upright handlebars. ---
**Author:** ![EndpointBraden](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/endpointbraden/32/22101_2.png) [@EndpointBraden](https://tarck.cc/u/EndpointBraden)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/30 "2022-05-25T23:08:32Z")
> [@drwelby](#): > > > [@EndpointBraden](#): > > > > How about “if you need an ebike to keep up you should quit” > > He’s specifically not about keeping up > > > [@](#): > > > > “If you can’t ride XX Miles you’re too unhealthy” > > He’s also specifically about short rides are just as good as long rides No kidding. It’s the same approach though. It’s gatekeeper nonsense. It’s exactly the same move as racer bro shop rats vibing normies out of a shop. It’s the painting of deliberately exclusionary/hostile white dude nonsense as inclusive that’s so absurd. ---
**Author:** ![drwelby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/drwelby/32/142_2.png) [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/31 "2022-05-25T23:10:47Z")
> [@EndpointBraden](#): > > It’s the same approach though. It’s only the same if you ignore everything he’s been talking about for last 30 years, including writing a book, that’s anti-gatekeeping. He clumsily tries to combine two of his bullet points into a one sentence “kinda makes you think” social media bullet point and suddenly all context is rendered null and void? ---
**Author:** ![adem](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/adem/32/2176_2.png) [@adem](https://tarck.cc/u/adem)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 1:54am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/32 "2022-05-26T01:54:26Z")
> [@drwelby](#): > > It’s only the same if you ignore everything he’s been talking about for last 30 years, including writing a book, that’s anti-gatekeeping. It’s all fine and dandy if you’re Grant-adjacent have have decades of context, but in the age of context collapse, it’s _fucking weird_ to see a bike personality/company post “you should ride your bike less” on their instagram. ---
**Author:** ![drwelby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/drwelby/32/142_2.png) [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 2:07am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/33 "2022-05-26T02:07:11Z")
All I see is a old guy who used to mail out a newsletter not understand that his audience is much much flatter and wide-reaching. But people who are Grant-adjacent enough to know his clothing preferences trying to paint him as a gatekeeper really feels like rightwing pundits trying to cherry-pick MLK’s “I have a dream” speech to argue that MLK would have been against race-based scholarships or something. ---
**Author:** ![oogens](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/oogens/32/83087_2.png) [@oogens](https://tarck.cc/u/oogens)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/34 "2022-05-26T02:08:50Z")
I dunno, my limited interactions with grant did not lead me to read that with gatekeeper vibes. I took it more as a continuation of his don’t take bikes seriously schtick. ---
**Author:** ![panda\_heavy\_metal](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/panda_heavy_metal/32/37770_2.png) [@panda\_heavy\_metal](https://tarck.cc/u/panda_heavy_metal)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 3:02am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/35 "2022-05-26T03:02:59Z")
> [@oogens](#): > > don’t take bikes seriously but spend $2k on a frame. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Jart\_Attack\_PhD](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/dr_jart_attack_phd/32/16324_2.png) [@Dr\_Jart\_Attack\_PhD](https://tarck.cc/u/Dr_Jart_Attack_PhD)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 3:22am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/36 "2022-05-26T03:22:40Z")
> [@panda\_heavy\_metal](#): > > but spend $2k on a frame. If cooking has taught me anything, sometimes it takes a lotta money to get a good vibe going (but I will not be buying a Rivendell for the record) ---
**Author:** ![drwelby](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/drwelby/32/142_2.png) [@drwelby](https://tarck.cc/u/drwelby)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 3:38am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/37 "2022-05-26T03:38:13Z")
And sell a $10 derailleur to put on it ---
**Author:** ![Unknown.Gnome](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/unknown.gnome/32/134778_2.png) [@Unknown.Gnome](https://tarck.cc/u/Unknown.Gnome)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 5:10am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/38 "2022-05-26T05:10:47Z")
Lol I think gp responded to me on instagram ![image](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/8/d/8d7e2407bb309dc7cc990e86531741ce0a1d2ffb.jpeg) ![image](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/a/e/aeccce6bc56b7825a54e2633ada2dfbf30dccbad.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![EndpointBraden](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/endpointbraden/32/22101_2.png) [@EndpointBraden](https://tarck.cc/u/EndpointBraden)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 10:36am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/39 "2022-05-26T10:36:35Z")
> [@drwelby](#): > > It’s only the same if you ignore everything he’s been talking about for last 30 years, including writing a book, that’s anti-gatekeeping. > > He clumsily tries to combine two of his bullet points into a one sentence “kinda makes you think” social media bullet point and suddenly all context is rendered null and void? I’m not ignoring it. But just taking prior things he said at face value and saying his current statements are irrelevant just doesn’t make sense to me. People change. Especially as they get old and technology and culture continues to change around them. Sachs gets this. I really don’t think Grant does. And it’s not like there haven’t been more weird statements from him prior to this. > [@adem](#): > > it’s _fucking weird_ to see a bike personality/company post “you should ride your bike less” on their instagram. This. Some white dudes become cooler with age. Some end up like Morrisey. His blog response really does cement it though. [https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd-9ZeJOEvZ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=](https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd-9ZeJOEvZ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) He truly can’t just talk about what he likes with out shit-talking alternative. That’s my beef. His entire marketing shtick isn’t “do what you want” it’s anchored to being anti-something. I agree with a great deal of his core ideas. It’s good stuff. But he can’t present his ideas without being smug. Literally starts off his rebuttal with the most absurd humble-brag. ---
**Author:** ![euclid](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/euclid/32/37780_2.png) [@euclid](https://tarck.cc/u/euclid)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 1:23pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/40 "2022-05-26T13:23:21Z")
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