# The Rivendell Rage Reader: A thread for the pure joy of hating on Grant P
**URL:** https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339
**Category:** Bikes
**Created:** [May 25, 2022, 1:52pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339 "2022-05-25T13:52:24Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 5
### Author:  [@jame5on](https://tarck.cc/u/jame5on)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/81 "2022-05-27T16:56:46Z")
I will never mock your stretchy pants.
To your face.
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### Author:  [@anon24974279](https://tarck.cc/u/anon24974279)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2022, 8:38pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/82 "2022-05-27T20:38:14Z")
Isn’t this all kind of reactive? I mean, rivendell as well. Very reactive to a perceived judgy cycling culture and now more reacting to that. Mainstream cycling culture can be very exclusive and judgemental. And he’s kind of pushing back against that. And everyone is kind of jockeying for space in the culture or whatever. I mean, yeah, what does your ride is too long even mean? But also I don’t think most people even care about rivendell.
Personally I’m trying to wrap my head around wearing bibs, which I find more comfortable, and flat shoes, which I like more than clipless shoes.
Can I bring myself to be the goof in spandex and vans? I mean, if that’s what I like, then shouldn’t I wear it?
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### Author:  [@jame5on](https://tarck.cc/u/jame5on)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/83 "2022-05-27T21:53:24Z")
THIS IS WHAT I WAS WARNING YOU ALL ABOUT!
first you decide to tell GP he instagram’s wrong and now poor Joel thinks there’s a dress code to sweat in the woods.
there is no wrong way to ride a bike.
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### Author:  [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/84 "2022-05-27T22:06:39Z")
it feels weird. put shorts on top of the bibs and boom, vans are okay
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### Author:  [@asterisk](https://tarck.cc/u/asterisk)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2022, 10:10pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/85 "2022-05-27T22:10:46Z")
Triathletes can have a little wee on the bike, as a treat?
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### Author:  [@jame5on](https://tarck.cc/u/jame5on)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2022, 10:41pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/86 "2022-05-27T22:41:21Z")
Ok I was wrong. Triathlon is the wrong way to ride a bike
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### Author:  [@Master\_Stabby](https://tarck.cc/u/Master_Stabby)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2022, 10:56pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/87 "2022-05-27T22:56:58Z")
This bike looks fun:
> **[Erik's Gus](https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/eriks-large-gus?mc_cid=fc533af276&mc_eid=01f43a6c62)**
>
> Erik took the long delay in delivery to think about every piece of this build, and it came out perfectly. The braking and shifting are both so crispy and satisfying - it's a tactile pleasure. He sold his full suspension bike to go full Hilli. Thanks...
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### Author:  [@Rent-to-own-Faxmachine](https://tarck.cc/u/Rent-to-own-Faxmachine)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/88 "2022-05-27T23:21:18Z")
> [@karl\_dandleton](#):
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> it feels weird. put shorts on top of the bibs and boom, vans are okay
It me
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### Author:  [@EndpointBraden](https://tarck.cc/u/EndpointBraden)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/89 "2022-05-27T23:33:39Z")
In mg experience, this method also makes Chacos OK.
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### Author:  [@Face](https://tarck.cc/u/Face)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2022, 11:57pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/90 "2022-05-27T23:57:58Z")
> [@russ](#):
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> Seriously, good luck finding a consumer product which is marketed like “We’re good but everything else is good too”
I’d take this as a personal challenge if I had anything to sell.
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### Author:  [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2022, 12:39am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/91 "2022-05-28T00:39:59Z")
the math checks out
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### Author:  [@anon24974279](https://tarck.cc/u/anon24974279)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/92 "2022-05-28T01:27:07Z")
I don’t want to put shorts over them. Why? It makes no sense.
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### Author:  [@Master\_Stabby](https://tarck.cc/u/Master_Stabby)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2022, 1:32am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/93 "2022-05-28T01:32:44Z")
Just make sure it’s bibs not charity ride shorts no one wants to see that crack.
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### Author:  [@anon24974279](https://tarck.cc/u/anon24974279)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2022, 1:41am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/94 "2022-05-28T01:41:18Z")
Of course what kind of uncultured slob do you take me for??
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### Author:  [@Master\_Stabby](https://tarck.cc/u/Master_Stabby)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2022, 2:03am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/95 "2022-05-28T02:03:08Z")
I made some assumptions about a guy who was hammering along and I figured I could use him to break a nasty headwind and then I spotted the Seattle to Portland souvenir jersey and just the barest inch of bike shorts butt crack. You never know.
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### Author:  [@adem](https://tarck.cc/u/adem)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2022, 4:24am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/96 "2022-05-28T04:24:37Z")
> [@anon24974279](#):
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> Personally I’m trying to wrap my head around wearing bibs, which I find more comfortable, and flat shoes, which I like more than clipless shoes.
> Can I bring myself to be the goof in spandex and vans? I mean, if that’s what I like, then shouldn’t I wear it?
i’ve ridden in bibs and SPD sandals, you can get away with bibs and vans
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### Author:  [@JUGE\_FREDD](https://tarck.cc/u/JUGE_FREDD)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2022, 5:24am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/97 "2022-05-28T05:24:33Z")
> [@anon24974279](#):
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> Isn’t this all kind of reactive? I mean, rivendell as well. Very reactive to a perceived judgy cycling culture and now more reacting to that. Mainstream cycling culture can be very exclusive and judgemental. And he’s kind of pushing back against that.
I don’t think it’s pushback — looks like recapitulation to me
he hasn’t had anything mainstream to push against for about a decade?
and the rivendell culture he fostered has been pretty explicitly exclusive and judgemental for a bit longer than that?
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### Author:  [@joyofvaping](https://tarck.cc/u/joyofvaping)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2022, 9:21am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/98 "2022-05-28T09:21:25Z")
I wore shorts over bibs with vans exactly once. Cut off jorts in fact. It was day three of a tour and the first “long” day at 70 miles, compared to the first two at around 30. I was embarrassed I guess to have on stretchy pants so on went the jorts. I got the worst saddle sore ever.
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### Author:  [@anon24974279](https://tarck.cc/u/anon24974279)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2022, 11:34am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/99 "2022-05-28T11:34:39Z")
Well then it’s just people being reactive to him I guess.
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### Author:  [@EndpointBraden](https://tarck.cc/u/EndpointBraden)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/the-rivendell-rage-reader-a-thread-for-the-pure-joy-of-hating-on-grant-p/26339/100 "2022-05-28T19:28:33Z")
If you fart loudly, people will react.
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