Tire Chat

And of course it’s not UCI legal (or even close. depends on what your local club/race body allows in non elite racing, but this is way over the UCI 33mm limit. Our local bodies usually allow 35mm max in CX categories)

I think most races here don’t care unless UCI race, which only affects cat 1-2 usually.
I am excited for my cross boss tires at a plump 35mm replacing the 35mm RaRas.

Yeah, dudes race fatbikes around here, but it’s the midwest so it’s to be expected.

that does seenm to be a very strange tread arrangement.

I feel like they should of just slapped one of panaracers cx treads onto the supple compass carcass

http://www.panaracer.com/cinders/

[quote=JUGE FREDD]

The Republicans are the party that says government doesn’t work and then they get elected and prove it

Jan still believes knobs are an industry conspiracy outside of mud conditions, goes and makes a historical reenactment cyclocross tire but with broad untapered knobs, a tightly-spaced center tread, and corner tread that’s fucking sideways[/quote]

This is a flawless analogy.

I had the Wolber Cross Super tire, on which this appears based, and it sucked. It was also like 28mm wide, though. Either way, I can’t wait to watch these tires spinning in place during the first race where the ground is a little wet.

[quote=dorth]that does seenm to be a very strange tread arrangement.

I feel like they should of just slapped one of panaracers cx treads onto the supple compass carcass

http://www.panaracer.com/cinders/[/quote]

I like to imagine the conversation with the Panaracer engineers, who actually know how tread works and have designed some fairly functional and influential tread patterns, having a conversation with Jan where he is dangling some ancient, rotted French tire in their face and telling them that, despite their 20 years of experience, this is the best design.

If there was ever a case for, “I can’t even,” it’s that tire.

Looks like it won’t spin going in a straight line but god forbid you try to corner at a speed where you lean the bike.

Of course they’re his perfect foil being way behind on modern technology and manufacturing and FEA design, their testing is less sophisticated than his

Panaracer are the ones that decided to remake all their early 90s NORBA MTB treads in new wheel sizes instead of paying attention to the world

Yeah, he quotes them as stating “knob design is about fashion.”

It’s not just Panaracer, though. IRC also seems to have missed the boat when it comes to modern treads/widths/wheel sizes. Japanese companies are extremely conservative and reluctant to change. I discussed this with the former US marketing guy for CatEye and his comments could have easily been applied to Panaracer, IRC, et al. To be fair, however, there’s no software or UI/UX component to mess up when it comes to tires.

Of course they’re his perfect foil being way behind on modern technology and manufacturing and FEA design, their testing is less sophisticated than his

Panaracer are the ones that decided to remake all their early 90s NORBA MTB treads in new wheel sizes instead of paying attention to the world[/quote]

TC: I was searching Frinciac for this image, but had to leave for work. :frowning:

Nah, it’s totally true. Look at fucking Shimano! They never make enough of anything. There were litearlly no 11 speed chains in North America from March through most of July, because Shimano very conservatively estimated the number that they would need to make. And for how long are they going to ignore “gravel”? SRAM is happily eating their lunch with their high-margin Taiwanese components, while Shimano is still pretending like there’s a market for 53/39 cranksets with 11-25 cassettes.

Nah, it’s totally true. Look at fucking Shimano! They never make enough of anything. There were litearlly no 11 speed chains in North America from March through most of July, because Shimano very conservatively estimated the number that they would need to make. And for how long are they going to ignore “gravel”? SRAM is happily eating their lunch with their high-margin Taiwanese components, while Shimano is still pretending like there’s a market for 53/39 cranksets with 11-25 cassettes.[/quote]change that to an 11-28 and that’s what 90% of racers are using. Althogh I have an 11-23 on my deeper crit wheels.

Yes, and that represents less than 5% of US road bike buyers.

yarp, I dont even do 50/34, haha

I am hoarding 2 pairs of these old ass Ritchey WCS clinchers. But at 36mm wide they are great for my fat butt and it’s totally anecdotal but I swear they fly on damn near any terrain. It’s likely me deluding myself so I don’t ahve to buy new tires, but anyone else ever use these?

In other tire news, the WTB Riddler in either 37 or 45 also intrigues me.

Is the Sepcialized Sawtooth 700x42 available yet?

I think that’s a good choice for me, rather than waiting for the Compass Snoqualmie Pass 700x44 jawns to show up.

Maybe it’s me, but I miss the 2.1 Vulpines. Those things were great. Have one pair I am hanging onto until they disintegrate.

That Riddler is interesting.

I’m thinking mostly of my Novara. 44 is on the limit, with fenders.

The simworks homage should go here too. 700x43 or 650b x43

and most road bikes come with compact cranks and 11-28 or 32 except for the highest level bikes with DA?