# Vassago Fisticuff

**URL:** <https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717>\
**Category:** Bikes\
**Created:** [February 13, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717 "2009-02-13T21:21:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![hambeki](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/f475e1/32.png) [@hambeki](https://tarck.cc/u/hambeki)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 5:39am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/21 "2009-02-14T05:39:13Z")

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Look at the Singular Peregrine. Same vein, only vertical drops with an EBB.

 ![](http://i36.tinypic.com/2vbpira.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Shortpants](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Shortpants](https://tarck.cc/u/Shortpants)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 6:51am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/22 "2009-02-14T06:51:50Z")

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those dudes know what’s up. The Fisty is just trying to be the peregine, in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![tjayk](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@tjayk](https://tarck.cc/u/tjayk)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 9:26am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/23 "2009-02-14T09:26:03Z")

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wtf is on the crank arm in the pic zombie posted? a metal spindle?

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nm - looks like a profile view of those skinny crankbros platforms.

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**Author:** ![Andrew\_Andeson](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/andrew_andeson/32/144359_2.png) [@Andrew\_Andeson](https://tarck.cc/u/Andrew_Andeson)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 12:07pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/24 "2009-02-14T12:07:39Z")

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I was going to post a Peregrine but got beaten to it. I’m still thinking of converting my crosscheck to front disc using a peregrine fork.

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**Author:** ![Patch](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/patch/32/12713_2.png) [@Patch](https://tarck.cc/u/Patch)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 12:08pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/25 "2009-02-14T12:08:59Z")

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Mander what bike do you run fixed?

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**Author:** ![ryker](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ryker](https://tarck.cc/u/ryker)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 10:20pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/26 "2011-10-27T22:20:11Z")

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Edit: #protestwordfilters

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**Author:** ![Char\_Aznable](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@Char\_Aznable](https://tarck.cc/u/Char_Aznable)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 2:32pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/27 "2009-02-14T14:32:59Z")

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> [@ryker](#):
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> Peregrine looks rad, +1 to front rack braze-ons and +1 to the EBB. Disc-only though. And still vanilla 4130 for £450 (CAD 800).

Maybe I’m wrong, but the fisti has front rack mounts too. No EBB though.

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**Author:** ![ryker](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ryker](https://tarck.cc/u/ryker)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 10:20pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/28 "2011-10-27T22:20:12Z")

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Edit: #protestwordfilters

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**Author:** ![Tail\_Hook\_Lengthener](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/85e7bf/32.png) [@Tail\_Hook\_Lengthener](https://tarck.cc/u/Tail_Hook_Lengthener)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/29 "2009-02-14T14:56:02Z")

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I just want to say that I think far too much emphasis is put on “fancy” steels, when all of us would be hard-pressed to notice the difference between “generic” 4130 and whoever’s branded 4130.

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**Author:** ![Elderbear](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@Elderbear](https://tarck.cc/u/Elderbear)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 3:05pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/30 "2009-02-14T15:05:19Z")

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> [@bonechilling](#):
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> Track ends are such an unfortunate trend.

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**Author:** ![barba](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/13edae/32.png) [@barba](https://tarck.cc/u/barba)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/31 "2009-02-14T15:25:31Z")

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> [@bonechilling](#):
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> I just want to say that I think far too much emphasis is put on “fancy” steels, when all of us would be hard-pressed to notice the difference between “generic” 4130 and whoever’s branded 4130.

Agreed, but that frame is still a little pricey.

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**Author:** ![boneless](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/boneless/32/142281_2.png) [@boneless](https://tarck.cc/u/boneless)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/32 "2009-02-14T15:34:53Z")

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[quote=“crushkilldestroy”]Look at the Singular Peregrine. Same vein, only vertical drops with an EBB.

 ![](http://i36.tinypic.com/2vbpira.jpg)[/quote]

WANT

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**Author:** ![asterisk](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/asterisk/32/84135_2.png) [@asterisk](https://tarck.cc/u/asterisk)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/33 "2009-02-14T15:54:44Z")

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Singular gets the fender mounts right, out of the way of the discs:  
 ![](http://mos.bikeradar.com/images/bikes-and-gear/frames/touring/CYP217.tested6.sing3-850-65.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Andrew\_Andeson](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/andrew_andeson/32/144359_2.png) [@Andrew\_Andeson](https://tarck.cc/u/Andrew_Andeson)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/34 "2009-02-14T17:04:36Z")

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> [@bold](#):
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> Mander what bike do you run fixed?

An old and nice Columbus Marinoni with the brazeons hacked off. _sigh_ My crosscheck is better suited than it in almost every way for my day to day commuting and LD riding, but it’s a really fun frame to ride.

I’m really not sure what’s keeping someone from building a 531 crosscheck-type frame. Not that 4130/ 520 isn’t fine for me, I just hear from bike nerd friends that 531 gets the flex just right, is super zen, etc.

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**Author:** ![Tail\_Hook\_Lengthener](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/85e7bf/32.png) [@Tail\_Hook\_Lengthener](https://tarck.cc/u/Tail_Hook_Lengthener)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/35 "2009-02-14T18:02:19Z")

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From what I’ve read, most current day generic 4130 tubing is stronger and lighter than 531 (which is no longer in production), and unlike 531, almost all of today’s 4130 can be TIG’ed.

Bike nerd wax nostalgic about 531 because it was the material used in their golden-days.

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**Author:** ![Andrew\_Andeson](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/andrew_andeson/32/144359_2.png) [@Andrew\_Andeson](https://tarck.cc/u/Andrew_Andeson)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/36 "2009-02-14T18:11:41Z")

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Ohhhhh-thanks for clearing that up bonechilling!

[Edited for correct b-tarckist]

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**Author:** ![Patch](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/patch/32/12713_2.png) [@Patch](https://tarck.cc/u/Patch)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/37 "2009-02-14T18:45:41Z")

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> [@mander](#):
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> Ohhhhh-thanks for clearing that up Bold!

wat.

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**Author:** ![MASTODON](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@MASTODON](https://tarck.cc/u/MASTODON)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/38 "2009-02-14T18:50:36Z")

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bikesdirect needs to rip something like this off.

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**Author:** ![tjayk](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@tjayk](https://tarck.cc/u/tjayk)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/39 "2009-02-14T18:52:56Z")

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> [@mander](#):
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> Ohhhhh-thanks for clearing that up cute hipster girl on a fixee!

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**Author:** ![Tail\_Hook\_Lengthener](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/85e7bf/32.png) [@Tail\_Hook\_Lengthener](https://tarck.cc/u/Tail_Hook_Lengthener)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/vassago-fisticuff/12717/40 "2009-02-14T19:49:03Z")

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> [@MASTODON](#):
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> bikesdirect needs to rip something like this off.

Oh man, I couldn’t agree more. If they did this in chrome like the Jury, I would shit myself. Someone email Mikes Direct and tell him.

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