# Weird Build Dithering Thread Infinity: Part 2

**URL:** <https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629>\
**Category:** Bikes\
**Created:** [August 6, 2018, 7:03am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629 "2018-08-06T07:03:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jimmythefly](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jimmythefly/32/36079_2.png) [@jimmythefly](https://tarck.cc/u/jimmythefly)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/61 "2018-08-22T19:13:15Z")

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> [@Straws](#):
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> I don’t really understand some of the rationale here… If it doesn’t break then why are you trying to replace it at all when another section of chain broke?
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> I’ve read the circumstances listed but in every case it just makes better sense to break the chain elsewhere and re-pin it or use a spare master link if you have it.

Trailside situations that I have experienced where you want to open a perfectly good masterlink, and then re-use the same masterlink:

1. Exploded derailleur or derailleur hanger. Need to open chain to remove offending parts, and shorten chain.Re-using the same masterlink is desireable because you want to keep your spare link in your kit as long as possible. Because what if you have a second problem on the same ride(especially applicable to group rides or remote locations)? Also because if using a 2nd link and then you have to buy another spare and remember to re-stock your ride kit.

2. Chain drops between BB shell and crank arm, resting on BB spindle. Small chainring is positioned very near to BB shell. Best way to unstuck chain is to open the master link and pull free.

In spite of my experiences above, I don’t carry a tool with masterlink tool, but I do carry a Leatherman Squirt with pliers that work in a pinch (though not optimally).  
I also carry a fiberfix spoke. (my 3rd, I have onlly ever used two).  
I own a hypercracker cassette lockring tool, but I don’t carry it.

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**Author:** ![Jacobell](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jacobell/32/895_2.png) [@Jacobell](https://tarck.cc/u/Jacobell)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/62 "2018-08-24T02:41:23Z")

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> [@todd\_bonzalez](#):
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> I got a little sad looking at the [pile of bikes in Dallas](https://www.npr.org/2018/08/07/636347531/hundreds-of-bikes-dumped-at-dallas-recycling-center-as-ofo-leaves-market) and thinking about all the perfectly good dynamo systems that were about to be scrapped.

We should have sent someone to go collect them all

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**Author:** ![BEEutiful\_Wednesday\_DDS](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/beeutiful_wednesday_dds/32/40914_2.png) [@BEEutiful\_Wednesday\_DDS](https://tarck.cc/u/BEEutiful_Wednesday_DDS)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/63 "2018-08-31T13:57:33Z")

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or you could forgo the master link entirely and just use the little babby shimano connector pins and solve this entire problem

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**Author:** ![dotMR](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/dotmr/32/640_2.png) [@dotMR](https://tarck.cc/u/dotMR)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:30pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/64 "2018-09-25T14:30:06Z")

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🇫🇷 Q  
have an old french no-name 531 frame and the BB won’t stay tight.

 ![prenat-frame](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/2X/e/ef0092d84a2d71cac89e69080f17796e27a1e57f.jpeg)

 ![531-decal](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/2X/d/d2c14c625221ec4a3edac7439db98aaa93c07c3b.jpeg)

Options:

- Ride with a 38.675733mm wrench
- Remove bb, clean, loc-tite cups, re-install, (and ride with a 38.675733mm wrench)
- Pass frame to next unsuspecting ~~victim~~ bikenerd
- Install cartridge / sealed french-thread BB

Or is it just unreasonable for me to expect a french-thread BB will ever stay tight?

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**Author:** ![turpentine](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/turpentine/32/51348_2.png) [@turpentine](https://tarck.cc/u/turpentine)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/65 "2018-09-25T14:56:47Z")

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Maybe try this bad boy?

> **[Threadless Bottom Bracket](https://velo-orange.com/collections/bottom-brackets/products/grand-cru-threadless-bottom-brackets)**
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> The Grand Cru Threadless bottom bracket is designed to put that frame with stripped or unknown threading back on the road.
> Like the other Grand Cru BBs, these have sealed cartridge bearings, so they require no servicing and should have a very long...

  
I’ve never used it though.

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**Author:** ![jdsmooth](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jdsmooth/32/610_2.png) [@jdsmooth](https://tarck.cc/u/jdsmooth)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/66 "2018-09-25T16:07:38Z")

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I’d try a cartridge BB. I had similar issues, vigorously installed a VO French BB. 7,000km later it’s still tight. The NECO AL-920 on ebay appears to be the same thing.

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**Author:** ![Face](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/face/32/77523_2.png) [@Face](https://tarck.cc/u/Face)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 5:09pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/67 "2018-09-25T17:09:04Z")

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French cartridge BB is the answer. I’d try it with greased threads at first, if that’s a no-go blue thread locking compound should do it.

I went through the same ordeal with a gaspipe French bike, ended up using heavy thread locking compound on it and the cups were completely locked in place… Loose.

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**Author:** ![oogens](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/oogens/32/83087_2.png) [@oogens](https://tarck.cc/u/oogens)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/68 "2018-09-25T17:12:18Z")

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I know i’m in the drastic minority, but I got this for taking the chain off my bike when packing into an s&s case for flight. It’s more of a concern when I’m taking apart my full suspension, as the weight is higher on that than my s&s hardtail. Last time I was a half pound overweight, and the check-in agent let me go with a wag of the finger, but my park chaintool was p heavy. Trying to lighten up my tool load, and picked up the wolftooth since it’ll also hold a couple spares so they don’t get lost in transit. Also holds a spare chainring bolt.

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**Author:** ![cousinmosquito](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/cousinmosquito/32/105410_2.png) [@cousinmosquito](https://tarck.cc/u/cousinmosquito)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/69 "2018-09-26T01:26:12Z")

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I had the same problem on my Peugeot. I put some loctite on it… then noticed a smidgen of play… and then I couldn’t get it off… (documented on tarck) . In the end, I got it off, and just put it back on with a very large amount of force. It has been perfect since then. I wouldn’t go the loctite route again unless it was **not** weapons grade loctite.

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**Author:** ![LASER\_BEIGE](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/laser_beige/32/152421_2.png) [@LASER\_BEIGE](https://tarck.cc/u/LASER_BEIGE)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/70 "2018-09-26T18:36:28Z")

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Doesn’t compass sell a French Bb too?

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**Author:** ![dotMR](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/dotmr/32/640_2.png) [@dotMR](https://tarck.cc/u/dotMR)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/71 "2018-09-26T19:52:05Z")

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Ok, will try out the cartridge BB

The VO version seems to be unobtanium here at the nude beach but looks like I can get a [Neco B-9020](https://www.sella-berolinum.de/shop-/innenlager/jis-vierkant-lager/757/neco-b-920-hal-bsa-innenlager-68mm-jis-div.breiten) with [french cups](https://www.sella-berolinum.de/shop-/innenlager/jis-vierkant-lager/1222/-franzoesische-lagerschalen-set-m-35-x-1-rechts/-rechts) for ~20EUR locally.

Thanks for the feedback all!

 ![](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/2X/b/b81398f8feef4deeb94e7b5a225cfb86b3582d87.png)

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**Author:** ![viggen](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/viggen/32/711_2.png) [@viggen](https://tarck.cc/u/viggen)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/72 "2018-09-26T21:32:43Z")

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They do, it’s and expensive as fuck SKF.

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**Author:** ![Crustradamus](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/crustradamus/32/7841_2.png) [@Crustradamus](https://tarck.cc/u/Crustradamus)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 4:59pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/73 "2018-09-28T16:59:34Z")

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Forgot to bid on a DA9000 crank that went for a very reasonable amount of $$$ yesterday from this seller:

 ![11%20PM](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/2X/6/66ae2df4ff3c206c44890cd5ede04670aa238774.png)

which one of you is it?!

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**Author:** ![jdsmooth](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jdsmooth/32/610_2.png) [@jdsmooth](https://tarck.cc/u/jdsmooth)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/74 "2018-09-28T17:18:23Z")

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lol that’s great

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**Author:** ![turpentine](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/turpentine/32/51348_2.png) [@turpentine](https://tarck.cc/u/turpentine)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/75 "2018-09-28T17:24:57Z")

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Pubes?

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**Author:** ![LASER\_BEIGE](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/laser_beige/32/152421_2.png) [@LASER\_BEIGE](https://tarck.cc/u/LASER_BEIGE)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/76 "2018-09-28T18:39:16Z")

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That Crank is still for sale

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**Author:** ![Crustradamus](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/crustradamus/32/7841_2.png) [@Crustradamus](https://tarck.cc/u/Crustradamus)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/77 "2018-09-28T22:10:42Z")

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GOD DAMN IT I missed it twice in a row? What evil is this. And this time it went for $75 lol

Hope one of youse got it.

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**Author:** ![todd\_bonzalez](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/todd_bonzalez/32/23476_2.png) [@todd\_bonzalez](https://tarck.cc/u/todd_bonzalez)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 1:38am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/78 "2018-09-29T01:38:36Z")

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One time I sold my favorite drumset, because I was just fucking stupid. And I got $800 for it. Then it sold again, almost immediately, and I was like “God, that was fucking dumb. I gotta buy back those drums. What the hell was I thinking?” And when I forgot to bid (in those pre-smartphone days), they sold for like $550.

So not only did I lose my favorite incredibly specific and rare set of drums, but I also lost money on the deal.

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**Author:** ![dotMR](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/dotmr/32/640_2.png) [@dotMR](https://tarck.cc/u/dotMR)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 1:49pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/79 "2018-09-29T13:49:17Z")

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When I was in highschool we moved from Milwaukee to Atlanta. My dad got grumpy somewhere in his early 40s and decided he was too old for ~~music~~ fun. So rather than packing it up (or finding someone that cared) he sold his perfect 1970s rosewood Sonor Kit for like $350 or something stupid. It was beautiful.

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**Author:** ![todd\_bonzalez](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/todd_bonzalez/32/23476_2.png) [@todd\_bonzalez](https://tarck.cc/u/todd_bonzalez)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/80 "2018-09-29T15:01:53Z")

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> [@dotMR](#):
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> perfect 1970s rosewood Sonor Kit for like $350 or something stupid

This hurts my heart.

These were 1971 Ludwig Super Classics in blue sparkle, with Blue/Olive badges and 3-ply maple/poplar/maple shells with the clean interior. Now _easily_ acknowledged to be the best shell Ludwig ever made, possibly one of the best drum shell designs in the history of the instrument.

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