# Weird Build Dithering Thread Infinity: Part 2

**URL:** https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629
**Category:** Bikes
**Created:** [August 6, 2018, 7:03am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629 "2018-08-06T07:03:15Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![adem](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/adem/32/2176_2.png) [@adem](https://tarck.cc/u/adem)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2022, 6:32am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1868 "2022-08-06T06:32:44Z")

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> [@adem](#):
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> do you have arcane non-brifter dropbar cable pull knowledge?

followup on mechanical disc brake + non-brifter drop bar lever dithering:

1. I figured since I’m on tarck I should own at least one set of the Official Cable-Pull Disc Caliper Of Tarck, and ebay’d some Hayes CX Experts. Dang these are chonkly - real snappy action, I can see why y’all like them. Unfortunately, same deal as the other calipers I tried: they’re definitely engineered around the slightly-longer-short-pull of modern brifters, and the very-short-pull BL-6403 levers went straight to the handlebars.

2. I bought some IRD Drillium levers from @drwelby and they have a quite long pivot-to-cable-anchor distance when compared with the Shimano BL-6403 levers, Tektro R200 levers, and even a tiny bit longer than the Sram S900 lever that I was trying. They work GREAT with the Shimano CX77 calipers - the lever firms up well before the lever bottoms out, but they still have more than enough power. I’m sure they’ll work well with the other calipers I have on the bench as well but we’re down to single-digit hours until the first big ride on this bike so I’m buttoning things up and may dither more later.

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### Author: ![cousinmosquito](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/cousinmosquito/32/105410_2.png) [@cousinmosquito](https://tarck.cc/u/cousinmosquito)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2022, 3:53am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1869 "2022-08-07T03:53:17Z")

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I know this is going to cost me, in time, not money. My first wireless power! I have two wired powertap hubs, one is intermittent on a decent rim, the other good, on a mostly slogged rim. Will pull them down, use the rim off one and the spokes off the other to make this hub into a wheel. One is built 2x and the other 3x, with the good rim having wrong length spokes anyway, as the original PT had different flange heights. I probably have the first 3 iterations of PT here. A shame it’s not the third, as it would talk to my Garmin. Will probably put it on my yellow Steelie and do some retro TTs with my spinachis. EDIT: gawdang, seems it’s the SL+ which works with the REAL ANT . I should be able to sync it to Strava and in theory, intervals.icu

 ![20220807_154205](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/c/c/cc7d4931cd13058313ab37318a837e1fce3a8de5.jpeg)

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### Author: ![jame5on](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jame5on/32/81952_2.png) [@jame5on](https://tarck.cc/u/jame5on)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1870 "2022-08-07T13:58:13Z")

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Can one of you with a qbp account let me know if they show stock on the surly moonlander offset fork?

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### Author: ![frank\_doktor](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/frank_doktor/32/12_2.png) [@frank\_doktor](https://tarck.cc/u/frank_doktor)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2022, 2:10pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1871 "2022-08-07T14:10:02Z")

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Only see the non-offset fk 0705 fork on QBP. Offset one FK 0707 not there anymore.

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### Author: ![jame5on](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jame5on/32/81952_2.png) [@jame5on](https://tarck.cc/u/jame5on)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1872 "2022-08-07T14:42:43Z")

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Thank you

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### Author: ![marcsworks](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/marcsworks/32/74695_2.png) [@marcsworks](https://tarck.cc/u/marcsworks)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1873 "2022-08-07T16:55:18Z")

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![IMG_20220807_183616](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/c/e/ce781235f2c0753510e71bc03b5ce96a7d17bd3a.jpeg)

The alluring tire clearance of this lock-up, Steven, I took in from a common in-law, has led me on a dither. Took L’s old venture maxes and short stem and threw it on here, then chased down some short pull v-brakes. edit: also rigid forked.  
Next step is to acquire some bigger tires. We will take this on a trip through the gravel and sands to the South, which her Soma just is not up to.

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### Author: ![Gary\_the\_tennis\_ball](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/gary_the_tennis_ball/32/10587_2.png) [@Gary\_the\_tennis\_ball](https://tarck.cc/u/Gary_the_tennis_ball)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2022, 8:41pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1874 "2022-08-24T20:41:06Z")

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Okay Tarck, gotta challenge for yall.

Whats the best \<$1200 receptacle for a hydro disc Di2 road group? I want to build something while I wait for the Rock Lobster.

Current thoughts are:  
[State Disc Road thing](https://www.statebicycle.com/collections/frames/products/undefeated-disc-road-frame-fork-set-pearl-tie-dye)  
[China Carbon Tarmac copy](http://www.velobuild.com/products/2021-vb-r-168-carbon-fiber-road-frame-disc-version-integrated-hidden-cables)

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### Author: ![iwillbe](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/iwillbe/32/1896_2.png) [@iwillbe](https://tarck.cc/u/iwillbe)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1875 "2022-08-24T20:57:07Z")

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I’m hearing good things about the State Allroad.

But seriously, either of those or whatever Allez sprint disc on your local Craigslist best fits you

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### Author: ![blackholelectron](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/blackholelectron/32/4360_2.png) [@blackholelectron](https://tarck.cc/u/blackholelectron)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1876 "2022-08-24T20:57:33Z")

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whoah that State is a good deal!

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### Author: ![Gary\_the\_tennis\_ball](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/gary_the_tennis_ball/32/10587_2.png) [@Gary\_the\_tennis\_ball](https://tarck.cc/u/Gary_the_tennis_ball)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2022, 9:03pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1877 "2022-08-24T21:03:46Z")

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> [@iwillbe](#):
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> I’m hearing good things about the State Allroad.

I had one, it was great! Now I have the Manzanita and the RL Cross bike on the way so was leaning toward the road version… Allez Sprint is interesting but they’re too expensive, the fanboys/cult following keeps the price pretty high around here in the bay. A phenomenon observed by many:

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### Author: ![Jacobell](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/jacobell/32/895_2.png) [@Jacobell](https://tarck.cc/u/Jacobell)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2022, 12:05am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1878 "2022-08-25T00:05:15Z")

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> [@Gary\_the\_tennis\_ball](#):
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> Okay Tarck, gotta challenge for yall.
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> Whats the best \<$1200 receptacle for a hydro disc Di2 road group? I want to build something while I wait for the Rock Lobster.
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> Current thoughts are:

Any Cannondale CAAD Disc

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### Author: ![EndpointBraden](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/endpointbraden/32/22101_2.png) [@EndpointBraden](https://tarck.cc/u/EndpointBraden)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1879 "2022-08-25T00:17:02Z")

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Norco Section Steel

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### Author: ![Orc](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/orc/32/2244_2.png) [@Orc](https://tarck.cc/u/Orc)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2022, 3:50am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1880 "2022-08-25T03:50:47Z")

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> [@Gary\_the\_tennis\_ball](#):
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> Whats the best \<$1200 receptacle for a hydro disc Di2 road group?

Do you know how to braze, or do you have a _framebuilder_ that’s willing to do horrible things to an existing frame?

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### Author: ![teepz](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/teepz/32/25596_2.png) [@teepz](https://tarck.cc/u/teepz)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1881 "2022-08-25T22:22:58Z")

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I’ve put about 1100 mi on my CAAD13 so far and really love it. Feels sporty but quite obviously not built like the older iterations and rides really nice. Fits 32s no problemo.

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### Author: ![goose\_value\_69](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/goose_value_69/32/169983_2.png) [@goose\_value\_69](https://tarck.cc/u/goose_value_69)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1882 "2022-08-29T00:52:28Z")

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Is there a reason I shouldn’t buy this?

> **[Salsa Waxwing Carbon Deluxe Fork](https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=102509)**
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> Salsa Waxwing Carbon Deluxe Fork :: From $549.00 :: Salsa Rigid Forks

For to put on the Coffee Grinder. It’s a little bit taller than stock cross forks and should slack it out about half a degree, with about 4mm of bb/stack increase. Probably not as cool as an Enve but I don’t care.

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### Author: ![Rusty\_Piton](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/rusty_piton/32/579_2.png) [@Rusty\_Piton](https://tarck.cc/u/Rusty_Piton)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1883 "2022-08-29T19:32:54Z")

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> [@EndpointBraden](#):
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> I’ve been 2 for 2 with Hylex being fussy/leaky.

Dang. The set I have worked flawlessly through maybe 20k miles of all weather commuting. They’re still attached to the drops they were on when I decided to put flat bars on my Wolverine, still covered in years worth of grime. They were great and the only reason I’m not still using them is that drops aren’t really my jam these days.

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### Author: ![EndpointBraden](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/endpointbraden/32/22101_2.png) [@EndpointBraden](https://tarck.cc/u/EndpointBraden)
#### Post date: [August 30, 2022, 1:16am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1884 "2022-08-30T01:16:02Z")

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The bike industry is nothing if not consistent in its inconsistency.

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### Author: ![Blakey](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/blakey/32/25608_2.png) [@Blakey](https://tarck.cc/u/Blakey)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2022, 4:25am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1885 "2022-10-02T04:25:00Z")

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Anyone smanged together SRAM XX 10sp MTB shifters and shimano front mechs?

Considering a flat bar swap on the friendpoint and I have in the parts bin:

- XX 10sp & 2sp triggers
- F&R XX lever and calipers
- X9 type2 RD
- Ultegra FD- 6700 10sp front mech
- 105 FD-5801 front mech
- FD-R443 9sp Shimano road flatbar triple front mech
- SL-R440 LX 9sp trigger with trim detents.
- SLX FD-M676 66-69°
- OX601D 46/30 cranks
- XX 39/26T cranks (probably too wide)

Can salvage off a bike

- SRAM force 10sp FD

1. Will any of those FDs work with the XX 2sp trigger and the 46/30 sugino cranks
2. What FD would match the XX trigger
3. Should I just use the R440 trigger and R443 front mech instead

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### Author: ![Smelliot](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/smelliot/32/19093_2.png) [@Smelliot](https://tarck.cc/u/Smelliot)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2022, 4:34am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1886 "2022-10-02T04:34:16Z")

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My first set leaked. I was told that they don’t like being inverted (I stored my bike upside down for a brief period). Kept it upright with the next set and never had a problem. Could just be coincidence or maybe there’s something there.

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### Author: ![karl\_dandleton](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/karl_dandleton/32/177_2.png) [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2022, 5:21am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/weird-build-dithering-thread-infinity-part-2/21629/1887 "2022-10-02T05:21:23Z")

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i’ve done shimano mtb banana (10sp slx?) with red 22 road paddle. it worked alright. i think sram mtb banana paddle probably pulls more than road paddle. ultimately i ended up moving back to a rival22 banana, but the key to making it work was the sram offset braze on clamp on. otherwise the limits weren’t enough to do the thing.  
if you can tolerate slack at the beginning of the throw, you can make most double paddles work with double bananas

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