# What did you do to your crosscheck today?

**URL:** https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586
**Category:** Bikes
**Created:** [August 3, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586 "2018-08-03T15:07:55Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 139

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### Author: ![anon24974279](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@anon24974279](https://tarck.cc/u/anon24974279)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2766 "2020-10-23T16:05:09Z")

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10mm spacer above the stem is nice looking. But no more

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### Author: ![Gary\_the\_tennis\_ball](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/gary_the_tennis_ball/32/10587_2.png) [@Gary\_the\_tennis\_ball](https://tarck.cc/u/Gary_the_tennis_ball)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2767 "2020-10-23T16:25:57Z")

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That was a neat read, thanks

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### Author: ![halbritt](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/f17d59/32.png) [@halbritt](https://tarck.cc/u/halbritt)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2768 "2020-10-23T17:03:44Z")

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> [@iwillbe](#):
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> I’ve been a fan of the 3T Arx in its various guises over the years, nice to see that I’m an intuitive genuis of bike parts (and not that I just buy cheap-ish, sturdy looking parts).

They’ve changed the design on the ARX II Team in a way that I’m pretty sure will make it less stiff. They’ve moved the clamping bolts for the handlebar more inboard such that it now resembles a Ritchey 4-axis, which did not test well in terms of deflection. It’s pretty obvious by looking at the stems that tested well vs. those that didn’t that the wider the clamping face, the less the deflection. I wager this has everything to do with leverage ratio and the axis of moment vs. torsional deflection of the stem itself. The hollow aluminum structures of any old stem is one of the most torsionally stiff structures one could make.

Unfortunately, the Fairwheel data is getting a bit old at this point, but it’s interesting nonetheless. I found it because I was interested in having matchy-match parts and didn’t want to buy a carbon stem and have it be **worse** , which many are.

For most folks, especially those that aren’t quite as substantial as myself, for instance, it probably won’t matter, unless they’re an avid sprinter.

Good news is that there are still a lot of the old ARX Team stems on ebay, but any old thing would work:

[https://www.merlincycles.com/en-us/forza-cirrus-road-bike-stem-83993.html](https://www.merlincycles.com/en-us/forza-cirrus-road-bike-stem-83993.html)

That guy, ugly as it may be, is 125g, has a pretty wide clamping face, is 6061-T6, which, while not nearly as strong as 7075 has nearly the same modulus. I bet that’s a really good stem.

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### Author: ![iwillbe](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/iwillbe/32/1896_2.png) [@iwillbe](https://tarck.cc/u/iwillbe)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2769 "2020-10-23T17:33:22Z")

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yeah, I liked the Arx models I’ve had slightly more than similar Ritchey models, but it’s probably almost all in my head. Alu is alu past a basic threshold of design competence.

My big annoyance with more recent Arx models that have come my way is the single Torx bolt attachement to the steerer. I want two m5 allen heads there, so I don’t have to bring a spare tool with me.

My interest in carbon bars is mostly for comfort, I like the idea of cutting a little chatter and vibration without big wraps of bar tape. I’m already using unpadded gloves, and would like more of a firm contact with the bars. That’s project after next at soonest, though. I am playing around with flared bars on a sport touring bike first, and I’m guessing that it’s going to take a few tries to get what I want.

After that I’m going hog wild with fully integrated carbon barstems on a road bike.

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### Author: ![cheese](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/cheese/32/182_2.png) [@cheese](https://tarck.cc/u/cheese)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2770 "2020-10-23T17:46:50Z")

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> [@iwillbe](#):
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> My big annoyance with more recent Arx models that have come my way is the single Torx bolt attachement to the steerer. I want two m5 allen heads there, so I don’t have to bring a spare tool with me.

I’m conflicted about this— I think more bike fasteners should be torx especially in smaller sizes, but until that point let’s just use allens everywhere. two bolts on the steerer clamp is just a good idea

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### Author: ![iwillbe](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/iwillbe/32/1896_2.png) [@iwillbe](https://tarck.cc/u/iwillbe)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2020, 1:54pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2771 "2020-10-24T13:54:12Z")

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another solution to my problem would be to gaffer tape a couple of torx wrenches to my multitool, but the problem there is that I"m a huge idiot and have been forgetting to do that for years.

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### Author: ![Face](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/face/32/77523_2.png) [@Face](https://tarck.cc/u/Face)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2020, 2:34pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2772 "2020-10-24T14:34:10Z")

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Replace the bolt

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### Author: ![iwillbe](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/iwillbe/32/1896_2.png) [@iwillbe](https://tarck.cc/u/iwillbe)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2773 "2020-10-24T14:54:24Z")

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Look I already said I was a huge idiot you don’t have to rub it in

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### Author: ![Mankato\_Pet\_Cremation\_LLC](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/mankato_pet_cremation_llc/32/39693_2.png) [@Mankato\_Pet\_Cremation\_LLC](https://tarck.cc/u/Mankato_Pet_Cremation_LLC)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2774 "2020-10-24T15:22:58Z")

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> [@cheese](#):
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> two bolts on the steerer clamp is just a good idea

The “problem” with two bolts on the steerer clamp: A vast majority of folx don’t use a torque wrench, and it makes it a lot easier for ding dongs to overtighten things when a torque wrench isn’t being used.

Give one bolt an oomph, go to the other and give it the same oomph, and then go back to the first bolt and you’ll be able to oomph it again.

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### Author: ![Bootus](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/bootus/32/110971_2.png) [@Bootus](https://tarck.cc/u/Bootus)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2775 "2020-10-24T18:08:48Z")

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Turning the inside of the BIGANT crate into mess with what may or may not be a bad idea to keep stuff strapped down. It still mostly folds flat with all that crap in it.

 ![i-T8WGtvT-4K](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/0/b/0b9edaa7ed407f57aa4afdaabf6d603087bf1031.jpeg)

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### Author: ![karl\_dandleton](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/karl_dandleton/32/177_2.png) [@karl\_dandleton](https://tarck.cc/u/karl_dandleton)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2776 "2020-10-24T19:23:04Z")

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mine no longer folds flat because of the thicc foam i shoved in there. i really want some straps tho

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### Author: ![Bootus](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/bootus/32/110971_2.png) [@Bootus](https://tarck.cc/u/Bootus)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2777 "2020-10-24T20:32:46Z")

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I keep forgetting about foam!

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### Author: ![cousinmosquito](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/cousinmosquito/32/105410_2.png) [@cousinmosquito](https://tarck.cc/u/cousinmosquito)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2020, 3:48am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2778 "2020-10-25T03:48:41Z")

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> [@halbritt](#):
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> That guy, ugly as it may be, is 125g, has a pretty wide clamping face, is 6061-T6, which, while not nearly as strong as 7075 has nearly the same modulus. I bet that’s a really good stem.

If you need new teeth anyway… I have been using this weener stem on my OPEN. Ok I’m not doing 5 foot drops but I do a lot of off-road. Recently swapped it to a shorter Thomson but will be going back I think. Wipe the logos off with acetone.

 ![Screenshot_20201025-164437_DuckDuckGo](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/7/a/7ad2b0bbab2ec788e95d0c66f0601cd2eb63ebd4.jpeg) ![Screenshot_20201025-164506_DuckDuckGo](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/4/3/43e3efe1d741a883c60d045c6454bf0b8b06ba53.jpeg)

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### Author: ![bward1028](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@bward1028](https://tarck.cc/u/bward1028)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2779 "2020-10-25T19:46:51Z")

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![PXL_20201025_190420403](https://cdn.tarck.cc/original/3X/9/5/9519ec5820e4515bf4ff891be04134245f0d4297.jpeg)

Gave Alison’s bike the runny arse treatment because I wanted its tires on my trucker for camping, and then put it in the back of the closet because it’s never been ridden.

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### Author: ![halbritt](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/f17d59/32.png) [@halbritt](https://tarck.cc/u/halbritt)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2020, 7:49pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2780 "2020-10-25T19:49:08Z")

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It that a purple ano ti king cage?

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### Author: ![bward1028](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@bward1028](https://tarck.cc/u/bward1028)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2020, 8:04pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2781 "2020-10-25T20:04:32Z")

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nope, it’s just something cheap.  
it’s labeled “dirt head”

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### Author: ![cheese](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/cheese/32/182_2.png) [@cheese](https://tarck.cc/u/cheese)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2782 "2020-10-25T21:22:30Z")

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> [@bward1028](#):
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> never been ridden

that’s sad, I felt bad that at this point wife’s bike has had more miles on the trainer than outside but at least she’s riding it

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### Author: ![Emor\_please](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/emor_please/32/89_2.png) [@Emor\_please](https://tarck.cc/u/Emor_please)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2783 "2020-10-25T22:23:20Z")

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Put my winter bike back together and rode it around the block.

Determined that the cheap pogies I got are probably not going to cut it — felt a tiny breeze on my hands.

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### Author: ![bward1028](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@bward1028](https://tarck.cc/u/bward1028)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2784 "2020-10-25T23:31:32Z")

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we just always take the tandem. she’s nervous about getting hurt on it, and probably with good reason.

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### Author: ![wickedwagon](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/wickedwagon/32/170051_2.png) [@wickedwagon](https://tarck.cc/u/wickedwagon)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/what-did-you-do-to-your-crosscheck-today/21586/2785 "2020-10-26T18:53:18Z")

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Ordered Ritchey Kyoto bars for the cross bike. Going for alt bar with a clutched 1x10/11 set up.

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