# Winter Bicycles **URL:** \ **Category:** Bikes\ **Created:** [September 5, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/winter-bicycles/17943 "2010-09-05T22:33:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Eric\_Estlund](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/eric_estlund/32/175125_2.png) [@Eric\_Estlund](https://tarck.cc/u/Eric_Estlund)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 6:18am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/winter-bicycles/17943/41 "2010-09-06T06:18:32Z")
I’ll be at NAHBS- a small group of OBCA members will have a little island of booths (8-10) there. Just booked my room the other day. I can do a hard tail- email me off list when you are ready. ---
**Author:** ![dillybars](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/dillybars/32/91973_2.png) [@dillybars](https://tarck.cc/u/dillybars)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 6:41am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/winter-bicycles/17943/42 "2010-09-06T06:41:14Z")
[quote=white folks]dude we been over this no insurance means i can’t build for anyone i can’t intimidate out of legal action[/quote] I $850/yr for liability ins, i got other quotes in the $1500 range… ---
**Author:** ![Whippin\_Skidz](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/65b543/32.png) [@Whippin\_Skidz](https://tarck.cc/u/Whippin_Skidz)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 6:59am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/winter-bicycles/17943/43 "2010-09-06T06:59:05Z")
[quote=white folks]dude we been over this no insurance means i can’t build for anyone i can’t intimidate out of legal action[/quote] You think I’m really selfish enough to sue? I get your fears, but if I’m asking a dude I’ve never drank beers with that lives on the wrong coast to build me a bike I’m pretty sure I know the risks involved. So if you ever DO decide to build a hardtail and want a test rider, hit me up. 🐻 ---
**Author:** ![anomaly](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@anomaly](https://tarck.cc/u/anomaly)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 1:52pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/winter-bicycles/17943/44 "2010-09-06T13:52:04Z")
[quote=white folks]dude we been over this no insurance means i can’t build for anyone i can’t intimidate out of legal action[/quote] If you say you will kiss him on the mouth he will run away, ask me how I know. ---
**Author:** ![Ashes\_Dust](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ce73a5/32.png) [@Ashes\_Dust](https://tarck.cc/u/Ashes_Dust)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 2:24pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/winter-bicycles/17943/45 "2010-09-06T14:24:32Z")
> [@white folks](#): > > no insurance means i can’t build for anyone i can’t intimidate out of legal action Salad arms represent. ---
**Author:** ![dougtruck](https://static.tarck.cc/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/7ba0ec/32.png) [@dougtruck](https://tarck.cc/u/dougtruck)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 6:26am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/winter-bicycles/17943/46 "2010-09-07T06:26:33Z")
so im looking at your flickr and i see a head tube with the TT and DT brazed with different set ups co4 and gasflux vs brazeage and i assume paste flux. i can’t tell the difference…enlighten me please ---
**Author:** ![Eric\_Estlund](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/eric_estlund/32/175125_2.png) [@Eric\_Estlund](https://tarck.cc/u/Eric_Estlund)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 7:18am UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/winter-bicycles/17943/47 "2010-09-07T07:18:56Z")
The differences were minor. I had a sample of the Brazage LFB and flux- lots of folks were asking about a head on comparison and I have a bit more experience with different rods then most builders. I did a head to head with as many combo options as I had sample rod for. It coincided with a small batch of frames so I was able to use the same tubes and angles in a real world repeatable test. I think I prefer the Gasflux flux slightly (only slightly) but could get used to either rod or flux. At the end of the day I think this demo shows that its about the person pushing fire, not the raw materials. Both are quality rods and fluxes and I think people will be happy with any combo of the two that they get used to. For the other folks, the photos are [here](http://www.flickr.com/photos/22538785@N05/sets/72157624084040424/). ---
**Author:** ![timberland\_boots](https://static.tarck.cc/user_avatar/tarck.cc/timberland_boots/32/659_2.png) [@timberland\_boots](https://tarck.cc/u/timberland_boots)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 1:22pm UTC](https://tarck.cc/t/winter-bicycles/17943/48 "2010-09-07T13:22:26Z")
I find 29er frames to be ideal for winter commuting… wait, what the fuck? [Previous page](https://tarck.cc/t/winter-bicycles/17943.md?page=2)