Don’t know if anyone cares, but these are looking pretty cheap. + free ship.
http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=5064
Those Premium Brew frames are really nice looking. The complete SE PB is something like $800 - $900 in shops? Its a nice looking bike frame.
Same thing here for cheaper, no SE logo, and still free shipping.
http://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_STOR ... rodID=1100It’s road geometry.
Must be garbage then. 
Yeah, just sayin - the people that want lugs on a track frame also almost always want no brake guides and steeper than 72/73 angles.
yup. their 52 has a longer top tube that Alien’s 53, and a slacker head tube angle. that said, it’s still a pretty good deal, and a nice upgrade from your 70’s gaspipe bike-shaped-object.
people like me.
still a cool frame for what it is.
are there any new sub-$400 lugged steel track frames?
apart from Alien, i don’t think so. the only other ones i can come up with off the top of my head are Sparton and that path-racer style Bikesdirect frame, and neither of those has particulary steep angles.
those wood be cool for a single speed touring bike
Alien GB at BF is $325 shipped to your door, in black or white PC.
There will be a raw option too.
Then there is the Alien GB2 going on here for $265, no finish and not including shipping.
I want to know what the BF GB unfinished frameset will go for…
ah yes sparton. i was just looking at their site and still somehow forgot. might actually go that route - as long as its relatively cheap and track legal.
i’d say that’s probably not too good of an idea, man. i know lugs are sexy and all but if you’re prepared to pay 80 bucks more for a heavy ass frame over the BD kilo frames i’d say that’s too much to sacrifice.
That would be a tasty build for sure.