AB's "Not Sure" & "Average" & "huh?" thread

Not sure

But obviously

WAT?

They will release one with cable guides in a month

Either way, I’m into it.

If QBP made $200 million in 2014 with 36 models under Surly how much will they make in 2018?

“folks want options”

[quote=kmcdon]How turdly? I’m assuming it’s basically the same as the threaded fork (WHY) on my grando, which is no nerdavindern fork but it’s aight.

It’s beefy tho.[/quote]
It’s appropriately turdly.

I’ve got three low trail forks in my possession atm and it is right in the middle. The other forks include one that sparksflyhigh built, which is similar to a first gen NFE fork aka not turdly almost to a fault. The other is a Rawland Ravn fork, which I haven actually ridden, but it’s very heavy and seemingly turdly. I assume it doesn’t flex at all.

The Soma fork (in my ~30min of use so far) flexes a little bit. Surprisingly both blades seem to flex together under heavy braking, where the NFE style fork pulls to the left.

If you want to optimize your basket yolobike, I think it’s perfect. If it’s a nice bike, get the H/G fork.

This thing is 7lbs lighter than my CG even stripped of fenders. I will be building a set of 60mm tubulars for it next. I miss having deep profile wheels when jamming along on the front.

The wooshing sounds from deep profile rims adds at least 75 watts.

[quote=ergott]This thing is 7lbs lighter than my CG even stripped of fenders. I will be building a set of 60mm tubulars for it next. I miss having deep profile wheels when jamming along on the front.

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That thing, and Crabbi’s Storck up above, both look awesome. I dipped a toe into the world of carbon road bikes once, ten years ago, but got stuck with a complete lemon. If custom carbon wasn’t so expensive, I’d get into it again.

I’m curious if I’m going to notice much of a difference between wheels with Light Bicycles’ 28wX46d carbon rims and the Archetypes on my Broakland. I mean, it may be hard to separate out the different tire sizes and dyno/no dyno. The switch from DTr460 to the Light Bicycle was definitely noticeable.

I am too even though it’s kinda dumb.

Initial spin up with really light wheels feels different. It’s not that it’s faster per say (according to physics), but there’s no denying the feel difference. When I’m north of 20 I can’t feel any acceleration difference. Turn in is also different. Light wheels are less gyroscopic and steering is a bit quicker/sharper.

On any given road I don’t feel dramatic differences between the different bikes. It’s when you finish same course faster or with less kJ expended that you see the results. There’s a noticeable difference in effort over a 4-5hr ride and it shows on the power meter. Day in and day out, having a really light setup does pay off if you are pushing your limits distance/pace.

I am too even though it’s kinda dumb.[/quote]
Woulda looked way better with a straight P2 style fork.

[quote=ergott]Initial spin up with really light wheels feels different. It’s not that it’s faster per say (according to physics), but there’s no denying the feel difference. When I’m north of 20 I can’t feel any acceleration difference. Turn in is also different. Light wheels are less gyroscopic and steering is a bit quicker/sharper.

On any given road I don’t feel dramatic differences between the different bikes. It’s when you finish same course faster or with less kJ expended that you see the results. There’s a noticeable difference in effort over a 4-5hr ride and it shows on the power meter. Day in and day out, having a really light setup does pay off if you are pushing your limits distance/pace.[/quote]

Yeah, definitely. I have felt the light wheel difference before for sure. I don’t have a stable enough environment for real comparison of effort, as Central Virginia’s weather is constantly changing, but I don’t doubt that there is some energy saved.

I’m not really interested in optimizing wattage at the legs to speed on the road, I’m not a racer; I’m going for the haptic/somatic aesthetic experience of a quick bike. My Broakland, even set up as a fast bike, is still a 21lb steel framed beast with 460g rims and 32 3x spokes. Conti gp4kii "25"mm tires aren’t weighty, but they will probably feel a little snappier than Hutchinson’s 32mm Sector, especially at the pressure I have to run.

Experientially, I’ll never forget going from a wheelset of 105 hubs, 36 spoked Vuelta Stylus rims (literally 800g EACH) with Armadillos to a set of Rolf Vector Comps with 23mm Spec Turbos. Spinning up off of the first stoplight was a revelation, so light, so quick.

Not sure

But obviously[/quote]

$1200 tho lmao

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But obviously[/quote]

$1200 tho lmao[/quote]

Yeah would never recommend one to a customer but would EP all day. Definitely will be one of those bikes next that doesn’t sell and gets blown out to shop employees a year from now.

[quote=ThurberMingus]The other is a Rawland Ravn fork, which I haven actually ridden, but it’s very heavy and seemingly turdly. I assume it doesn’t flex at all.
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Where did you get just a ravn fork?

I got it on eBay. Was gonna slap it on your frame but it’s theough axle and I’m not ready to give up dynamo life.

Re: road bike chat. Bought this frame off a local racer/carbon repair bro when I broke my Sarif. He cut the steerer way too short. It has been broken and repaired three times. The first was that giant patch on the down tube, which he filmed himself doing intentionally as an ad for his services. Two weeks later he crashed in a race and cracked the nds seat stay. About a year after that he was hit by a car and cracked the seat mast, so I cut it off. It is light and makes trying to keep up with 22 mph dudes a lot easier.

The splatter bike has been repaired/repainted (with some sweet metal flake) but I’ve been too lazy to swap parts back