fucks wrong with you? wasting a good cookie opportunity. swallow your pride, then the cookie.
fucks wrong with you? wasting a good cookie opportunity. swallow your pride, then the cookie.[/quote]
For real. It’s a fucking cookie. It’s not like you’re gonna end up licking a 70 year old fox news grandpa, it’s made of sugar and flour. It could be in the shape of anything.
I would drop kick that cookie, set it on fire then urinate on it to extinguish.
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fucks wrong with you? wasting a good cookie opportunity. swallow your pride, then the cookie.[/quote]
nah, give the cookie to a hungry person because it will be the only time trump provides them any nourishment
[quote=cheese]^ that is a pro move, also consider the time cost, etc of not making trips to actual stores to buy household bullshit, or going across town to the one store that has might have your specialty part[/quote]ftfy
For some things, yeah, but Uline is a lot easier to use. And stuff comes next day.
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I just signed up for Amazon Prime trial to get my digital camera guaranteed delivery before my bike tour.
Arrived in less than 24 hours…then I ordered a few more things the following day…arrived next day.
I’m getting a little worried that this trial might be extended indefinitely because next day delivery is addicting.
For a business I can imagine Prime would be extremely cost effective at $99 a year.[/quote]
Amazon is certainly an option I have utilized at work to the tune of a few thousand a year at least, but there are frequently specialty items that are difficult to order for lots of reasons (slow shipping, inaccurate or nonexistent item specifications, or just not on Amazon at all). It takes a village.
My entire family uses the same prime account. Both parents, all three of my brothers, my fiance, my brother Sam’s gf, and Sam’s GF’s sister. We have like twenty separate addresses and at least thirty credit cards loaded in. Thanks Mom.
y’all wanna get riled up about some shit
check out the economic practice that facilitates amazon prime
(hint, it’s not robots doing that labor…)
Everything is actually terrible
Fuck, I guess I can’t buy things anymore. The u-line camp chair was my favorite! That thing was definitely built Ford tough.
I’d eat a box of those cookies delivered Amazon prime.
[quote=bobbythehawk]y’all wanna get riled up about some shit
check out the economic practice that facilitates amazon prime
(hint, it’s not robots doing that labor…)[/quote]
The labor practices in the warehouses are the least of your worries if you’re trying to suss out the ethical implications of patronizing amazon. It’s a fucking quagmire.
I had friends that worked at Zappos when Amazon bought them, it went from a really good place to work albeit still a warehouse but good benefits and advancement opportunities, catered meals every day, good management practices, etc. to just a normal shit warehouse job. Though the people that were there from before got some stock options when Amazon moved in, I feel like that was negotiated by Zappos.
[quote=bobbythehawk]y’all wanna get riled up about some shit
check out the economic practice that facilitates amazon prime
(hint, it’s not robots doing that labor…)[/quote]
Can you break down the numbers relative to other warehouse / shipping / logistics jobs?
that’s a good question. The just-in-time industry is so imbricated that may be difficult
But, as they dominate, they have the ability to set standards throughout the supply chain. They are making the norms, and we see “bad” labor practices repeated throughout the industry. It’s driven further by competitive pressure & contractors struggling to remain connected to the supply chain. The corps (amazon, walmart etc) shift the risk to the links in their logistics chain, independent companies who often employ seasonal or just-in-time workers
maybe wal-mart created the monster (wal-mart was one of the first big companies to contract out their entire logistics operation) but the drive for convenience fueled the model…
guessing you already know this stuff. I’ll dig out the research i was reading surrounding this stuff if Tarck is interested. Not sure if there are hard numbers that break things down between companies, as they are all contracting this shit out.
TL;DR, amazon and others have the ability to set/enforce standards for their contract driven supply chain, but that shit is expensive and inconvenient when you need to get toilet paper overnighted to your apartment
I think about this question a lot. A LOT.
When you start investigating, or even think about, “Sustainability,” you have to do a lot of back-tracking and personal reflection and soul-searching about where you stand on certain things. it’s probably warranted to go full hippie and live off the grid like Captain Fantastic, but it’s likely not productive to change. You could ignore it completely and keep shopping at Wally World and McDonalds and that’s probably not productive either. So how to cope? What’s the right call?
Ok, first off, let’s pan out for a minute. Here’s a carbon footprint breakdown by sector for the average American in 2010. I’ve seen some of these numbers before so I’m pretty sure this source is using reputable data, but it’s just a broad idea:
The “Big Three,” making up more than 65% of your carbon footprint is food, driving, and your house. More specifically, the Big 3 within the Big 3 are Beef, Driving, and Electricity.
If you want to change the world, you have to think in “Best Practices” rather than in a Pass/Fail sort of way. It’s the only way we’re going to get anywhere. Let’s start with food. Beef is AWFUL for the environment. And if you’re avoiding McDonalds for the grass-fed organic stuff, you’re actually increasing your carbon footprint because factory farming is very resource-efficient.
By yearly consumption, literally every other meat is something like 5x better for the environment than beef. I don’t wanna talk to you if you don’t like turkey dogs, y’all. Beef uses thousands of gallons of water per pound of meat, and cows alone produce 10% of all greenhouse gases. Driving is a bit of an easier pill to swallow for this crowd. We all bike. I drive less than 3,000 miles a year. Kelley drives a bit more, but she’s working on it (gotta build her a cross bike for commuting!). Last one’s electricity use. Turn off lights, replace your lightbulbs, replace old air conditioners and other appliances, and go solar! The average person can usually reduce this by a huge amount just by increasing efficiency. Baby steps.
Still with me? I have a point to all this. Baby steps. I hate Wal-Mart and Target and H&M and the whole throwaway economy as much as the next guy, but if you consider it as plain old pure evil, you disregard the opportunity it presents. We are a society of 8 billion people and there’s no “third world” like it used to be. Today, it’s a small percentage (~20%? 15%?) of truly impoverished, truly rural and destitute third worldians, and the vast majority sits somewhere in the middle - The Developing World. They’re catching up to us. Chinese and Indian citizens are buying washing machines and cars en mass. Shanghai is in the same GDP/Health/Wealth bracket as Italy. Huge parts of South America are making similar decisions. More people are flying in planes. This is racking up really fast.
The world was never perfect. There’s no state to return to. Before Chinese citizens were working in factories making your clothes and plastic zip-ties, they were often times less educated, much more prone to disease, and were literally starving to death by the millions (ever heard of China’s Four Pests campaign?). There’s an argument to be made for the consumption of the West, specifically USA, as being the single biggest factor in bringing people out of poverty and towards development, across the globe. A factory paying an inhuman wage can often uplift the rural village it’s built in faster than anything else. That doesn’t make the practices at the individual level any more ethical, but I don’t see it as the big bad wolf. Just in the last 50-60 years, life expectancy across the world has pretty much doubled for the majority of nations that used to be under 40yrs. If we’re going to live the lifestyle we lead, we cannot expect most of the rest of the world to remain in poverty and live a hunter-gatherer-subsistence farming lifestyle, and it’s not productive or practical to moan about us reverting back to that state because it’s never gonna happen. Let’s work with what we’ve got.
Factory farming is more efficient. Producing goods in bulk at the source of resources is more efficient than making them locally, even after the goods are shipped across the world. Growing apples in Washington and shipping them to Massachusetts is more carbon-efficient than growing them in Massachusetts and picking them off the tree, because Massachusetts is wetter and needs more pesticides. Gidon Eschel figured that one out. Nothing is clear-cut and straight-forward, but if there’s one thing big business loves, it’s efficiency, and I think that’s probably gonna do more in the long run for saving the earth than literally any other hippy lifestyle choices we can make. 8 out of the top 10 companies investing in solar power all make consumer goods, and Wal-Mart is one of the top investors.
But if we are gonna try and be good citizens, concentrate where it matters. Upgrade your home, drive less, stop eating beef. Broad strokes. Don’t beat yourself up because it’s hard to buy zip-ties, we’ll get there. Be an example in your own circle with the more important stuff and campaign for change.
But yo, fuck U-Line.
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i think we at tarck are well rounded critical thinkers, able to call bullshit when we see it.
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