Bike Products Which Exist, But Which One Wishes Did Not

The truth is I put it in the wrong bike products thread. At least they didn’t create yet another BB tool standard (Chris King).

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I need a Shimano t47 killer

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Shimano BSA bb + t47 to BSA adapter?

I asked one of the higher up at Shimano USA why no t47. He had no answer.

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Replacement bearing and bushing from Wolftooth is ~$50 hmmmmm

And requires more tools than the big goofy BB socket

T47 was designed by Chris King employees around machining the cups, and Shimano doesn’t like getting into anything unless it’s based on near net shape forgings to not spend machine time

Meanwhile China keeps bringing endlessly more CNC mill capacity online every year, and accepts worse unit cost margins to just make everything that way. I think they ultimately make more money on lower-priced lower-margin parts by having fewer middlemen and low inventory.

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Crikey. I think i brought home more crap than I dropped off tonight. Hope shizzle comes with 105 shifters..

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I remembered this and was hoping you would chime in

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I thought this was a sick burn about hy/rds at first before realising you meant putting the master cylinder in the brifter

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Didn’t Giant have their own system too?

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They sure did Conduct Hydraulic Brake Systems | Giant Bicycles Official site

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trp parabox was the absolute worst version of this system i ever encountered. two different sets of pads and neither of them worked. such hot garbage.

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Formula also had these, maybe. The pics are some protos from cx race coverage, not sure if they ever were a production thing.


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It was really frustrating to not yet have integrated brifters with hydro brakes because at this time Shimano already made their integrated dual-control XT and XTR so why couldn’t they adapt it to drop bars? I know some folks smanged them onto drop-ish bars at the time but can’t find a pic at the moment.

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To think that these were marketed to people riding CX bikes is insane, such a small market. The gravel trend opened up so much money for r&d. All in the past 10-ish years too. What were the first mainstream hydro brifters again, the phallic shimanos and sram HRDs?

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CX racing was big in that moment! Look at the bars bell lap

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RS505 shimanos?

RS685/RS785 non-series shakes predated the 505s…but I think Red were the first to market?

A mate bought a bike with these at the peak of covid when nothing else was available. He’s not a bike nerd or ditherer so they work just great for him. I have heard of a couple of instances of these things springing leaks all over the place, but my sample of one says they’re okay.

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Brrrm brrrrm!
Reminds me if that v8 powered hand held drill


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