Let’s see a photo of the bike.
looks like you could shove the saddle back a cm or two, do that
if it’s already all the way back, get yourself an Aliante
the resulting athletic position will take the weight off your taint and move it to your legs and hands
you may end up dropping the bars and/or wanting a longer stem after getting your ass further back
“Slam the saddle” is the default answer, but he’s saying the problem doesn’t occur on his cargo bike which has a shorter reach position.
I’m betting it’s some kind of nerve impingement/sciatica kind of thing, or could be. Is the bar on the Brooks saddle coming in contact with your coccyx?
dude, if your balls are going numb
go see your docta and have them write you a scrip for a medical fit
we are talking about your balls here
Cocked saddle sounds like the fix, but I have no idea how to go about it, I’ve played with cleat position more to make it as close to where my feet sit on platforms/clips/straps and that has helped. Soreness still kicks in about 25 miles in to a ride. Will have to do more research about tilted saddles… thanks all.
[quote=dougganita]dude, if your balls are going numb
go see your docta and have them write you a scrip for a medical fit[/quote]
^ Assuming you’re not physically disabled and are in good shape you should really re evaluate your fit and contact point choices if you expect to be comfortable on longer harder rides. For starters the brooks and old school pedals absolutely have to go especially with the problems you describe.
Or go the other way and try riding the Big Dummy on a longer faster ride, and if that works out without pain, redo the fit of the other bike so it’s more like the BD – if that clears up things, it gives you a good starting point for any further tweaking you want/need to do.
Rando fit ftw, orc nailed the logical progression fitting wise. A lower back or nerve problem is a good place to get looked at so it doesn’t turn into a larger medical problem.
[quote=halbritt]“Slam the saddle” is the default answer, but he’s saying the problem doesn’t occur on his cargo bike which has a shorter reach position.
I’m betting it’s some kind of nerve impingement/sciatica kind of thing, or could be. Is the bar on the Brooks saddle coming in contact with your coccyx?[/quote]
Halbritt gets me.
Definitely a nerve thing, as mentioned there is no pain or numbness anywhere in my body while riding… It’s only afterwards, that I’m off the bike, that I get these weird nagging sensations.
These seem to originate on the inside of the right sit bone… I scoot back on the b-17 to ride on the widest part, trying to make sure only my sit bones are making contact with the saddle, but it’s like this nerve somehow gets pinched or at least compressed in the process.
I should note that I normally do not wear cycling kit or chamois, but I’ve had this issue regardless of whether I wear kit or not.
And as noted, if I stay off the road bike and only ride the more upright Big Dummy, I do not have these issues.
Super frustrating as I feel I have this, for me, ideal road bike but for whatever dumb reason I can’t enjoy it pain free.
Thanks all!
Looks like I’m throwing the stock saddle back on the borrowed folder. The post is at its max extension and the Flite doesn’t have enough stack height for the correct saddle height.
I thought I could deal but my knees are killing me today.
Brompton’s post will be plenty long but worried about other fit crap now.
[quote=surfcat][quote=halbritt]“Slam the saddle” is the default answer, but he’s saying the problem doesn’t occur on his cargo bike which has a shorter reach position.
I’m betting it’s some kind of nerve impingement/sciatica kind of thing, or could be. Is the bar on the Brooks saddle coming in contact with your coccyx?[/quote]
Halbritt gets me.
Definitely a nerve thing, as mentioned there is no pain or numbness anywhere in my body while riding… It’s only afterwards, that I’m off the bike, that I get these weird nagging sensations.
These seem to originate on the inside of the right sit bone… I scoot back on the b-17 to ride on the widest part, trying to make sure only my sit bones are making contact with the saddle, but it’s like this nerve somehow gets pinched or at least compressed in the process.
I should note that I normally do not wear cycling kit or chamois, but I’ve had this issue regardless of whether I wear kit or not.
And as noted, if I stay off the road bike and only ride the more upright Big Dummy, I do not have these issues.
Super frustrating as I feel I have this, for me, ideal road bike but for whatever dumb reason I can’t enjoy it pain free.
Thanks all![/quote]
I’ve had a few B17s in my life. The first one had the most incredibly stiff leather. It was awesome. Perfectly molded to my ass and was hella comfortable. I got another, it sagged and hurt my back so I sent it back. The replacement eventually also sagged and hurt my back. The bar that the leather is riveted to is what caused the problem.
My most trusted source of real-world bike fit advice suggested I try swapping my “known good” Big Dummy saddle for the Pelican saddle - just to control for the potential saddle-to-saddle variable.
The B-17 on the Big Dummy is black, older, and molded nicely to my butt. The B-17 on the Pelican is honey, newer, and doesn’t seem to be of quite the same quality as my older B-17s, although it is plenty stiff and hasn’t really molded to my butt yet. No harm (besides aesthetics) to trying the suggested swap, I’ll give it a shot and see how it goes.
This source also proposed raising the bars on the Pelican further, to try to further replicate the Big Dummy position. Grant Peterson, here I come!!
Hey guys, I really want to get proper shoes/pedals and a professional fitting this year. I have been riding in clips and straps for too long.
When I was a child, I had a spiral fracture on my right leg (riding my bike, lol), which caused that leg to heal with a slight twist to it.
The most obvious affect is that my right foot angles outward several degrees more than my left. I am dealing with this currently by running a spacer on my right pedal so that my heel doesn’t hit the crankarm. Obviously this is a fucking kludge solution and I am over it.
I have solid health insurance finally, so I was thinking about seeing a sports medicine specialist first. Good or bad idea? It also affects my running, so I am hoping to see what he/she can do about that as well.
How should I go about choosing a place to fit me? About how much should I expect to pay? $100? $150? More?
Thanks y’all.
i think that if you’ve been riding for a while and haven’t had any problems you don’t need it. i don’t have any faith in pro-fitters, it’s just a business.
what they’ll do, and what you can easily do it just place the center of the cleat behind the second metatarsal, which should help avoid any hot spots.
go out and ride for a while, give your foot a little twist in each direction to make sure it’s not locking up on either side. angle the cleat to give neutral float on either side.
specialized inserts might be useful, i like them. if they sell them they can help you pick the right ones.
after you have that set up check your knees to see how they’re tracking, maybe stick a wedge in there if they’re flying all over the place.
Spacing out your pedal is most definitely not a kludge solution. In fact, that’s pretty standard to address the problem you’re having.
One of my feet angles out as well. I use a couple pedal washers to space out my right pedal so that my ankle doesn’t hit the crank arm.
I don’t agree that professional fitting is bullshit. I don’t think that professional fitters are by any means magical, but it’s a whole lot easier to set up all that shit with a 2nd person and you’re paying for that other person to get it right the first time instead of just having your buddy help who may or may not know anything about what you’re trying to do.
If you’ve got the insurance coverage, go to the Dr. and see if there’s anything worth correcting or anything you can do beforehand. Most bike fitting stuff is a work around the problem, not a repair or solution.
$150-200 is pretty average rate for a professional bike fitting AFAIK.
Float might be an issue.
[quote=aerobear]Most bike fitting stuff is a work around the problem, not a repair or solution.
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this woman gets it atmo
Don’t get sold orthotics you don’t need or other expensive stuff to justify your visit to the doctors office. That is a good first step in looking at helping move to clipless pedals. A good fitter is going to ask to talk to your Dr. and have you sign away some limited permissions to exchange relevant information. Before they put you on the bike with a final position. By a good fitter I most certainly mean one that is a good choice for you and your needs. So not a Guru-Retul race fit.