Crapbrapping or Pukebacking or Poopbarning

This is what I got. Minor edits, some detours, and a bunch more POIs for things like closures, campsites, etc.

You correctly identified the major confounding factor with a tour in this region. Finger lakes topography is really steep! Climbs tend to be short but hard so the goal is to avoid too many crossings-over between lakes. Adding too many climbs will slow your pace way, way down and could put you off your itinerary. If that’s a concern, stick to the valleys, the state highways might be 55mph but they tend to be nicely paved and have great shoulders.

To start, Buttermilk Falls and Treman SP are both cool enough to warrant visits. Trails are off limits to bikes tho. Would recommend hiking down to Lucifer Falls from the upper entrance to Treman (marked it on the map). Not a long hike and really cool.

I put you though Connecticut Hill WMA for some fun dirt roads, nothing too gnarly, just a nice way to break it up a bit. The descent out of there is all-time. Watkins Glen is a great resupply/lunch/beer spot.

There are much funner and more scenic ways to get around the south end of Canandaigua and Keuka Lakes than just riding state highway shoulders, but it seems like your goal there is just to get from Corning to Letchworth, and that’s certainly the most efficient way to go about it. If you have an extra day though that’s where I’d put it. Some really nice dirt roads in that zone.

One big thing I would advise is to take advantage of free primitive camping offered in almost all NY state forests if you can. Anywhere you see a small tract of state forest on the map (for instance, down by Corning), there’s almost certainly dispersed camping allowed and probably a couple nice designated campsites. These are all free of charge and while they offer no services, can be a REALLY nice alternative to, say, a highway RV campground or something. They just might cost you a bit of a climb at the end of the day.

Letchworth is really cool, you’ll like the ride through it and the campground is nice. I marked Wiscoy Falls to the south which you should hit up if you can, it’s a SUPER nice “locals know” spot for a midday/afternoon swim or wade. Worth a bit of a detour for, or if you want to tack on more miles that day, take Botsford Hollow Rd. to Fillmore, hit up Wiscoy from there, and then ride north to Portageville and the gorge.

The greenway ATMO gets pretty boring pretty quickly, but it’s way nicer since the resurfacing project has been going on. That said, there’s a section immediately north of Letchworth which isn’t trail at all, just grass track. Avoid it and stay on River Rd. there then pick the trail up in Piffard. You can actually just carry on River Rd. as well and have a perfectly cromulent time tbh. Good road, little traffic, some nice views.

Since you’re already taking Scottsville Rd. north from Scottsville to Rochester, you can hop on the paved Greenway section by the airport and take it up into Genesee Valley Park and up to the city, which is a good time. Avoid Jefferson Road, you will get killed by an engineering undergrad in a turbo Subaru.

I’d agree with Nate about the Erie Canal trail being boring east to Macedon, but I wouldn’t say it’s in bad shape. Just riding all day on stuff that flat and swampy can get annoying. Feel free to take parallel roads there to shake it up a bit if you want.

Also good catch on the Montezuma stuff Nate- I added reroutes there to my route.

The stuff around Auburn looks tight, I don’t know much about the roads over there though tbh. Really just avoiding the major highways is sufficient 98% of the time tho.

Seneca Falls is cool if you’re into womens rights history, some nice stuff there. Definitely check out Taughannock and take the Black Diamond Trail, really nice and triumphant way to end a tour, can’t beat a gradual downhill rail trail.

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oh shit i missed the aurora/auburn bit. i was just riding over there last weekend! I’ll add comments

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wait who was riding by auburn??? I go up there with some regularity – my wife is an auburnite! We have ridden bear swamp and montezuma and the canal and up to fair haven, and dipped up to the natural spring by Weedsport. Same story for Green Lakes in syracuse, and driving out to the Glen to camp and ride in the forest over there. What rides are we forgetting!

When you are at Letchworth make sure to do a bunch of shrooms and climb around in the falls while thinking you speak Russian. Or maybe don’t, I haven’t been there since…

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This is outstanding! Thank you! I’ll gladly reciprocate with routing advice and invite myself along* if you are ever planning trips in New England (particularly MA and ME).

* Not trying to be passive-aggressive here (just maybe a little snarky) - in general, a Tarck-up would be great. This trip has so many logistics, with my wife attending a conference and me working remotely and tagging along to a couple things at the conference and visits to family that I’m reaching my planning limits, but if I feel like things calm down in the next couple days, I’ll PM you all.

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I’m in Ithaca and am bullish on a WNY tarckup, whether or not it involves crashing Earwig’s tour…

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wait you’re in ithaca??? that’s very not far from binghamton.

glad to help! didn’t mean to imply I wanted to crash your tour :slight_smile:

I don’t think the timing will work out for me anyway- I have Swift Campout to run the last weekend of June (EDIT you’re all invited), then going to our cottage for July, then moving spouse across the country to start med school

I know! I would have hit you up already but for the whirlwind of first year PhD. This summer tho!

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on the east side of cayuga lake i’d skip union springs but that’s just me, it’s not like there’s traffic.
the mackenzie childs outlet is a SCENE and would be hilarious to show up on a bicycle.
the town of aurora is REALLY nice, there are some great restaurants with horrible hours. i can meet you there by boat/jetski and we could take a cruise.

i don’t see the value in going through auburn (sorry auburnites) and if i were already in aurora i’d go around owasco to the south and then come up between owasco and skaneateles. there is no good way to ride through auburn (i have tried just about everything) but there are some really awesome roads between those two lakes.

your route just north of auburn will be a headache, i would go up to turnpike rd and then go out that way.

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IME the decisions you make out in the woods are changed when you know that someone will be looking for you if you don’t show up, or will be nearby to render aid in a dire emergency/abandon.

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guess his attempts with media crews/documentary teams don’t count anymore

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Yes, but he’s dressed for success so those rules don’t apply to him

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Is it me, or does he complain a lot?

Moral hazard is some highfalutin language, but if an event says “self supported, no media, no face to face contact with support”, then there you go.

Specialized can pay for their own media circus, or they can sponsor the whole event, it’s not like their pockets are short.

what if my media crew flies a drone over my head for most of the race? it’s not a human so i get no moral support.

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It depends. If you’re Lael, that’s a clear violation of the rules, otherwise it depends on who you know

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Assuming it’s not a Predator, your human crew is a mile or two up the road

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yes, so what? i can’t see or talk to them. is that considered moral support? i’m just saying the lines are blurry!