I want more saddle to bar drop. My seat’s as high as it can be relative to the BB (I got baaad knee problems when I had it any higher) so that just leaves changing my bar/stem. Since I ride a flatbar, I was going to get a stem with lots of drop. Anyone tried this? Will it make the bike handle completely retarded?
i just went from a relatively flat stem to a nitto jaguar. i have no problems
i don’t really understand this thread though
you just want to drop your bars a bit more? if so, then yes a drop stem will help.
no, a drop stem will actually raise your bars up compared to where they are.
-j
personally i ride a flat bar with a Nitto 58 drop 90 mm length, and i find it just fine. At first you may need to adjust your way of breaking if you ride breakless.
DON’T DO IT!
It will make the chain noisy and it may bend the headtube.
Seriously, WTF??? How the fuck would a drop stem interfere with handling? All it will do is lower the bars. Surprizing, eh? Longer or shorter stem wd affect the feel of steering somewhat.
dont do what?
Get a drop stem. It makes wheels go out of true.
Keep your stem and get drop bars.
It’ll make it feel like you’re riding a bike with a seat tube thats 5cm shorter but with the same TT length. Be careful with the length. A 110mm stem at a 30deg drop only has an effective reach of about 110 x sqrt(3)/2 = 95.26mm (with a drop of approx 55mm). (I was teaching 30-60-90 triangles last week)
And for the love of god, don’t fuck with your saddle height for something as stupid as saddle to bar drop.
This isn’t a very “tarck” statement, but ,aybe drop bars are for you. You get the best of both worlds; a high position for cruising and a aero position for pushing it.
Pffft…I suppose I should have explained. I have never ridden a longer stem than I had to, even on the road. It only matters for ease of getting the front end up, and stability holding the bike in the air, but…I view that as a pretty essential capability for any bike I ride to have. I jsut dont like being far away from the top of the head tube. Drop bars, rise stems, long stems, they all made me feel less stable because they were farther away from the source. But I guess for riding in a straight line it makes less of a difference.
As for drop bars, I’ve put them on this frame and my seating position was almost perfect holding the drops, but…I really hate my hands being sideways. Anyway thanks gaiiz, I feel a bit less paranoid about stems now.
seat height should only be adjusted to get your legs right. adjust seat to give you more or less saddle to bar drop is not a good idea…as your knees told you.
[quote=“ocean”]Pffft…I suppose I should have explained. I have never ridden a longer stem than I had to, even on the road. It only matters for ease of getting the front end up, and stability holding the bike in the air, but…I view that as a pretty essential capability for any bike I ride to have. I jsut dont like being far away from the top of the head tube. Drop bars, rise stems, long stems, they all made me feel less stable because they were farther away from the source. But I guess for riding in a straight line it makes less of a difference.
As for drop bars, I’ve put them on this frame and my seating position was almost perfect holding the drops, but…I really hate my hands being sideways. Anyway thanks gaiiz, I feel a bit less paranoid about stems now.[/quote]
wait are you talking about doing this for wheelies?
[quote=“ocean”]Pffft…I suppose I should have explained. I have never ridden a longer stem than I had to, even on the road. It only matters for ease of getting the front end up, and stability holding the bike in the air, but…I view that as a pretty essential capability for any bike I ride to have. I jsut dont like being far away from the top of the head tube. Drop bars, rise stems, long stems, they all made me feel less stable because they were farther away from the source. But I guess for riding in a straight line it makes less of a difference.
As for drop bars, I’ve put them on this frame and my seating position was almost perfect holding the drops, but…I really hate my hands being sideways. Anyway thanks gaiiz, I feel a bit less paranoid about stems now.[/quote]
Wheelies??? WTF? Try again.
when you say it will bend your headtube are you referring to threadless stems?
First off, Sacha, youre a noob.
secondly, if you liked the position on the drops, then a drop stem isnt goign to get you close to that, your stem is level as it is, one inch less rise(you porbably wont get more unelss you run a wicked long stem) wont be even close to beng in the drops. other people are gonna flame me for saying this, but maybe an upside down riser? seems like an ok option for the guy that ran those “wet-nooodle” downsweeping flatbars.
or maybe…is tahm tuh replayce the ahrn hoarse? 
Hey! Hey! I don’t ride those bars anymore! I ride the dork-bars NOW, with different sweep…Stephane. Since we’re on such a first-name basis
Yeah, I need way more drop than a stem can give me 
I’m trying the risers and then lookin around for a new frame. I hate my life.
And yeah. It’s for wheelies. Cause any setup that feels dangerous hopping up or down curbs (i.e. most road setups) is not a bike I want to ride on the street, even though im sure it might be better for goin fast… thats just where my priorities are.
You know that there’s usually a top to drop bars, and that sometimes they even have hoods and brakes that make controlling and stopping the bike super easy, right?
I once had a drop stem that broke my chainring and one of my seatstays resulting in a catastrophic crash which ended with a ruptured spleen and a hospital stay.