First winter with clipless, how do I keep my feet warm?

haha, dont get me wrong, I’m dreading the day my wools kick the bucket and i find myself hard up against the decision to buy more or not and it becomes an ethical debate, i just know there are alternatives available.

There honestly isn’t.

I’m assuming I can at least get close haha.

The alternatives smell terrible and don’t work quite as well. Good luck and hand wash your current socks.

thanks for the luck, and I always do. I get funny looks when I’m washing out socks in the dorm bathrooms.
I dont wear wool much as of now, so I should be ok for another 5 or 6 years.

Back on topic. How far do you ride? 30 is not that cold. Last winter here i went by the “20 min rule”. Where basically everything i used had to work for 20 min (that was the furthest i had to go on most occasions). For longer rides i hear booties work great and most are designed for clipless and dont work so well with clips and straps.

Check out this website. There is some good info for biking in the winter.

http://bikewinter.org

Thanks for the link. I know that 30 isn’t that cold, I am from the Chi myself, but the cold here is different. 30 here feels like … it’s weird. Like, back home when it’s cold you feel the cold, but here, you just get cold. I don’t know how to describe it better. It just kind of sinks in more or something. Seriously, something about the air or elevation or something but 30 here sucks. Been here about 4 years now. Anyway, as for how far I ride, some days I’ll do as little as 5 miles, some days I’ll be on the bike all day. But I’m really only worried about night riding, usually during the middle of the day here it’s pretty tolerable. The longest night ride I did last winter was about 35 miles, coming back from a frickin’ sweet bonfire party with the bestest apple cider I had ever had on this awesome organic farm in a little village north of town. My usual night ride is about 8 miles though.

negative. comes from animals.
I think some people just eat vegan, but generally veganism applies to consumption and the things you wear. Vegans also dont use leather, so no brooks.[/quote]

Vegans dont make any sense, Animals are tasty.

Im kidding about that, the meat industry is pretty brutal but i see nothing wrong with harvesting the milk and eggs of animals it doesnt harm them…

And not using wool is just fucking dumb cause its shaven off and re grows, humans get fucking haricuts if vegans dont use wool they shouldent be getting haircuts.

Shaving an animal doesnt harm it.

Harvesting the milk and eggs from animals is one thing, but supporting the system that confines (tortures) those animals, injects them full of shit and is generally just as bad as the meat industry isn’t very nice either. I don’t know if the wool industry is similar to that, but maybe veganism isn’t all about cruelty, maybe it’s just about not using animal products. I don’t know, I’m not vegan. I respect the ideal, i guess, but most vegans I’ve met are whiney turds. I suppose that even if one is only doing it for some self-righteous bragging or holier-than-thou-whiney-turdiness, it still is good for the planet/karma. So, kudos to you, whiney-turd-vegans!

The first half of this is very right. Dairy and egg companies still leave their animals in very foul environments, fill them with all sorts of chemicals and in the case of dairy animals, continuously impregnate them in order to keep them producing milk. The life of a factory dairy farm cow is one of approximately 5 years as opposed to the 20-25 year natural life spent chained in a pen, repeatedly impregnated and without any sort of civil attention to wounds or ailments. Wool has long been an idea I go back and fourth on, I dont know much about the wool industry, and initially it doesnt seem like a harmful industry outside of the enhanced animal waste/methane output, though 3 years ago I would have said the same thing about the dairy industry…

The sheep I see in rural Scotland seem to lead pretty idyllic lives compared to factory farm animals. They are born outside and spend their lives mostly grazing on big acreages, walking around looking for tasty grass. Besides disease, the odd dog, especially bad weather (but they’re dressed in wool), and slaughter there is not much real unpleasantness in their lives.

waaaait a second here
i just went to an online conversion site
30F is like 1C ???

are you fucking kidding me?
Its been colder then that here every morning for the last 3 weeks and im still wearing my meshed mountain bike shoes with regular athletic socks. My commute is 45 min. I saw a couple of guys wearing shorts just last week.
Am i missing something here?

Yeah other posters don’t live in as cold places as you. Perceptions of cold differ.

I normally ride down to about 0-8°C only too. All I do is cover up the mesh things on my shoes from the inside with duct tape in the winter.

dam, i guess your rigth
i dont even call this cold. This is actualy nice weather, not cold, not hot, just perfect.

P.S. I ride at -40F/-40C during winter sometimes. Hoping your toes don’t fall off now that sucks.

what sidi’s go you own? i rock dominators and was totally fine without booties last winter… tokyo has similar weather to what you mentioned. and was a good bit colder some nights – usually just rocked a thin pair of socks over a wool pair and wore the shoes a bit looser.

[quote=“carail”]waaaait a second here
i just went to an online conversion site
30F is like 1C ???

are you fucking kidding me?
Its been colder then that here every morning for the last 3 weeks and im still wearing my meshed mountain bike shoes with regular athletic socks. My commute is 45 min. I saw a couple of guys wearing shorts just last week.
Am i missing something here?[/quote]
Wow, you’re amazing. I’m sure you also have a ginormous, unpunchable cock.

[quote=“LoReeZy”][quote=“carail”]waaaait a second here
i just went to an online conversion site
30F is like 1C ???

are you fucking kidding me?
Its been colder then that here every morning for the last 3 weeks and im still wearing my meshed mountain bike shoes with regular athletic socks. My commute is 45 min. I saw a couple of guys wearing shorts just last week.
Am i missing something here?[/quote]
Wow, you’re amazing. I’m sure you also have a ginormous, unpunchable cock.[/quote]

Yes i am. Yes i do.

The alternatives usually don’t last as long and our petroleum biproducts. Best tool for the job and also the longest lasting tool for the job IMHO is wool. Even if the idea of cutting it off an animal sucks, the alternatives create far more waste.

But I am a complete wool addict.

Duct Tape works well in Indiana winters, when the temp gets to as cold as -30F. I’ve also used those cheap Totes slipover boots with a hole cut to allow the cleats access to the pedals in the soles.[quote=“pirate”]This is real ghetto, but my friend who had the same problem put duct tape over the mesh.
I think he said it worked, but keep in mind this was in Santa Cruz, which gets really mild winters.[/quote]