Holyshit, so so good
Full photoset is up, grams are at the top so scroll down to get the real camera shots. Note Miguel spy shots and Tarck membership verification.
Oregon Outback Day 1
Oregon Outback Day 1
Oregon Outback Day 2
Oregon Outback Day 2
Oregon Outback Day 3
Oregon Outback Day 3
Oregon Outback Day 3
Oregon Outback Day 4
Oregon Outback Day 4
Have you ever camped much? Eventually the sleep deficit is going to accumulate.[/quote]
I am talking specifically about ânormalâ pace backpacking, biking, whatever.
I am specifically NOT talking about the race-pace that Ira or Jan did. Though when you look at Tour Divide kits, they carry pretty much the same stuff for two nights or twenty, too.
Yes, have spent a fair bit of time camping far from services, without automobile. For several years I was actually an outdoor professional (LOL) in various parts of the country.
IMO 2 or 7, IF your 2 night game is on, are pretty much the same. Beyond 10-ish nights things are still similar, but food weight can add up, and I want to start paying attention to menu variety. Also some foods that keep fine for a week will start to get a bit funky. Trash starts to add up, so thinking through how I package food not only for freshness but to minimize garbage matters. Need to have a plan for washing socks/undies and rotating them. Other things that I usually âjust take one ofâ I start to think more carefully about how much I actually use, or if I need to double up on salt or cooking oil or stove fuel or TP or whatever. A single book might not make it past 10 days depending on the style of trip.
I think we must be talking about different things. I usually get more/better sleep while camping than any other time in life.
Andrew, Hell Yeah!!!\
Some beautiful pics in that set.
LOOK AT THE BURGER BELL
LOOK AT IT
Damn you Andrew, those pictures are awesome
(p.s. who do you have to know to get one of those Swift jerseys?)
You have to know the Swift people.
True story: I was in the boy scouts with Jason from swift. We were not best friends. Teenage years are rough.
Thatâs what I was afraid of lol. Itâs just such a cool design.
Have you ever camped much? Eventually the sleep deficit is going to accumulate.[/quote]
I am talking specifically about ânormalâ pace backpacking, biking, whatever.
I am specifically NOT talking about the race-pace that Ira or Jan did. Though when you look at Tour Divide kits, they carry pretty much the same stuff for two nights or twenty, too.
Yes, have spent a fair bit of time camping far from services, without automobile. For several years I was actually an outdoor professional (LOL) in various parts of the country.
IMO 2 or 7, IF your 2 night game is on, are pretty much the same. Beyond 10-ish nights things are still similar, but food weight can add up, and I want to start paying attention to menu variety. Also some foods that keep fine for a week will start to get a bit funky. Trash starts to add up, so thinking through how I package food not only for freshness but to minimize garbage matters. Need to have a plan for washing socks/undies and rotating them. Other things that I usually âjust take one ofâ I start to think more carefully about how much I actually use, or if I need to double up on salt or cooking oil or stove fuel or TP or whatever. A single book might not make it past 10 days depending on the style of trip.
I think we must be talking about different things. I usually get more/better sleep while camping than any other time in life.[/quote]
Okay.
Probably, I just suck at sleeping.
Thanks!
I think the Jerseyâs will eventually be available on the website. J & M are just trying to figure out which jersey manufacturing company to go with. I guess they werenât happy with the durability of the last kit and want to beat on the new ones a bit before committing to a big order.
lulz at solar chargers on handlebar rolls that face north the entire ride:
http://theradavist.com/2014/05/bikes-faces-oregon-outback/#24
Which was the worst section of road; the OC&E ROW, or one of the forest roads?
Now that time is a less critical factor can you explain the concussed team member incident, Mig?
Worst section was probably the red volcanic sand after fort rock/before sandy springs, but the headwinds on the gravel rollers between shaniko and the dalles kind of ruined spirits. I think access to services is the downfall of this ride. If there were checkpoints/bag drops every 50-75 miles that would make this thing super awesome but then I would expect it to be ragbrai of the west/or what I understand that to be. I think it would be stupid to ride it anywhere near the off season but there are houses, cabins and barns along the route and you could beg for help or b&e if you were gonna die.
Yes, concussion. It was an experience/handling error.
We were riding at ~20mph on soft gravel approx 20 mi from the start, we were 200â from a cow gate(there are pictures, people have posted them). He reached to grab a bottle and twisted his bars, turned the wheel and hit the ground head and shoulder. His head hit underside of the helmet, outside eye. I was 15ft behind, got to him first. He had a âstarstruckâ look in his eyes and started concussion talk: feedback loop, âwhat happenedâ âI donât rememberâ âaw fuck guys Iâm sorryâ and that went on for 20 minutes while we tried to get our bearings. I went to work on his bike(cracked and rashed nds shifter/campy bullshit torx) and other buddy got first aid kit going. We were solid mid pack and everyone passed. It was as you would have expected. We rode 5 miles to the nearest shit town, called FIL and waited for 90 min before leaving him in the care of the feed store operator and a nice lab/rott named howdy. He ended up with a clean bill from the doc, a few bloody noses and a nice shiner.
Hereâs how I think he could have prevented it:
More training with his actual set up on diverse terrain.
He is an experienced -road- rider. He is bigger than me and kicks my ass all the time. He was riding a soma double cross canti with 2 low riders in the front and ~?35mm file tread? tires. We went on -1- fully loaded shakedown ride as a group together for ~30 easy miles on familiar gravel roads. The road he crashed on had big soft gravel(the kind you find on Dixie mtn, locals) and I doubt he tried to ride his set up there. He had mentioned he was overloaded and I think he wasnât used to that much weight on the front end of his bike, let alone that terrain. He was lucky it happened where it did because it could have been much worse elsewhere. And later we found that my other buddy had an easier time with rear panniers as he could stand on climbs and not spin out. That bike set up would not have worked on the red sand very well nor the thick fat gravel later. This ride needs fat tires and even my other buddy, who had 35mm Sammy slicks, said he needed to go bigger. 2.2s were good, a bit bigger would be awesome.
Moral of the story: overtrain and know what you can do
Agreed, I lowered my tire pressure quite a bit about 1/3 way in and that seemed to help. Wondering if I could have benefited from an even lower pressure. I need to pick up a pressure gauge one of these days and experiment. Some of the guys on that trip absolutely refused to drop some air for the really loose sections, I was confuse.
My downfall was carrying too much food (and water sometimes). I reached the end with an unbelievable amount of snacks. Ugh, the half jar of peanut butter I thought I would spoon outâŚnope
Itâs so easy to pack way too much food
I loved that, and didnât even let air out until I got to the right turn where it lost the fluff
you have to be comfortable climbing seated
and you and your shit have to be balanced over the wheels
camp in shaniko and leave real early while itâs calm
and lol that part of the route has several little towns along it
Fort Rock to Prineville is the toughest, but Brothers isnât too far off route at the bottom of Sand Springs
[quote=Miguel]Just finished
And for the thread name, I puked. Exerted myself to the max.[/quote]
people puked outside cowboy dinner tree and the morning after
and again the next night in the prineville, people puking out of their tents in the middle of the night
goddamn the SuperPro guys were Super, Professional
Murphy and Salar were the only people outside my crew that would take a beer handup the first day
The course was awesome, but the route was ridiculous by SIR and Point83 standards. Gabe and Donnieâs ride last year differed over more than a third of the mileage, in a different season (90 degree days with a constant light tailwind), at a 7 day pace, with no followup on the ground.
They posted some feedback from people whoâd ridden it in the weeks before the event, but discounted most of it and the page wasnât linked to anywhere else on their site: http://velodirt.com/final-oregon-outback-preparation/ â I only found it on the PNWbikepacking FB group afterwards
They really expected everyone to depend on electronic navigation. They knew the road names were bad but didnât bother to correct them, so the cue sheet I made for people sucked since I only recompiled what was messily provided by them into a real-world format. Thank god for tire tracks!
Iâm planning to make an accurate cue sheet now that I know where the bodies are buried and what road signs exist.
Serious jelly here. I want to do something like that.
[quote=JUGE FREDD]
They really expected everyone to depend on electronic navigation. [/quote]
Ugh fuck that. No directions is better than wrong directions.
