Souplesse Casings and Bike Soup - The Tire Thread

Jacobell · October 13, 2018, 6:13pm

Few folks around here have em and they look pretty silly IMO

Eddbread · October 18, 2018, 7:33pm

Ok so i just mounted the GK’s (48c) holy fuck this tyre is hard to get on the rim

Andrew_Squirrel · October 18, 2018, 7:53pm

Had one of those perfect tubeless success experiences.
Ran over nail
Removed nail
Rotated tire so hole was facing down
Sealed up immediately
Didn’t lose enough air to compromise tire firmness
Continued riding
Believe the hype, tubeless tires are magic. Sealed up quick enough that I didn’t even need to add air after removing the nail.

turpentine · October 19, 2018, 12:21am

bless you

theKearney · October 23, 2018, 6:19am

Have done about 80 miles of gravel and single track in the past few weeks on the G-One Speeds.

They’re not as nice on gravel as my beloved Thunder Burts, which is to be expected, but traction was surprisingly good on loose dirt and rocks. Def appreciating the beefier sidewalls as compared to Compass Tissues, I descended without worry on some sharp n’ nasties and noticed a few scratches that would have probably been tears on a Compass.

The one down side I’ve noticed is that the G-Ones seem to have a narrow band of PSI goodness. It’s easy for them to feel too hard, and if you knock them down too much they’ve got a mushy shitty feel. I’ve been keeping mine (2.0) at around 24-25psi and that seems about right, lower and they start to feel no bueno - I weigh 140.

Perlhammered · October 23, 2018, 3:21pm

Just gonna, uh, leave this here

kmcdon · October 23, 2018, 4:21pm

I’ve been pretty happy with the longevity of both my rat trap passes and my grand bois hetres (obviously not compass)

so maybe he’s not completely wrong here.

Crustradamus · October 23, 2018, 4:31pm

Hetres die only after the sun deteriorates the rubber enough for road hazards to cause damage. At least 1 year no matter the mileage.

Dr_Shart_Attack_PhD · October 23, 2018, 4:37pm

I bet you can get a fair amount of miles out of Compass tires but I do kinda wonder how long Jan will run them in flat-magnet territory. Though I feel like we’re supposed to believe that he doesn’t get flats

iwillbe · October 23, 2018, 4:40pm

His basic point is probably right: wider tires probably wear out more slowly than narrower tires under similar use cases.

Sure would be neat if he disambiguated his blog from his company, or brought BQ, Compass, and his blog under a single brand. Nothing wrong with a brand blog.

adem · October 23, 2018, 5:18pm

yeah, I’ve been pretty impressed with how long my Snoqualmie Pass tires have lasted.

I did kill one with a nasty sidewall slice, but that’s my own damn fault for taking a supple tire down some rocky singletrack.

JUGE_FREDD · October 23, 2018, 6:33pm

yeah the rubber was too thick, which then accelerates the sidewall wear from flex

and also makes them slower because the tread is stiffer

turpentine · October 23, 2018, 6:52pm

Has anyone tried making some silk fatty tires? Seems like that would be the baller high dollar sidewall choice.

earwig · October 23, 2018, 7:20pm

What’s a good alternative to the Hetre? Something supple but a bit sturdier than the Babyshoe EL? This would be for road/dirt road touring, commuting, some spirited riding. No PVD-style “gravel”.

There’s the non-EL Babyshoe, obviously, but what else is in the same category rather than much-sturdier gravel tire?

JUGE_FREDD · October 24, 2018, 1:57am

the Horizon is pretty close to a modern-construction Hetre, tubeless and slightly bigger

there’s also the G-One Speed that comes in 40/50/60mm to fit whatever fenderway

karl_dandleton · October 24, 2018, 3:38am

have you been on the g one speed? can you comment vs horizon? the 48 gravel king is, in fact, a terrible tire and i think it’s gonna get me hurt

todd_bonzalez · October 24, 2018, 3:40am

Is there a source for cheap G-Ones from Euroland? I was thinking of getting a pair for exactly the reason you mention (something kinda knobby that fit with fenders).

Crustradamus · October 24, 2018, 1:09pm

How about that 400 gram 27.5x2.0 Schwalbe G-One Speed that is Liteskin not Snakeskin? Wonder how tubeless it is (not a TL-easy tire) and how durable compared to an EL Compass. I find it hard to believe that they are incapable of making a TL tire between the 400 gram and 500 gram mark. Really takes 1/4 pound to TL a tire?!

https://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/racing_tires/G-ONE_Speed

I also see that the 2.35 and the 2.0 weigh the same because the 2.35 doesn’t have “v-guard” Seems like the 2.35 tire in 2.0 would be perfect.

turpentine · October 24, 2018, 1:29pm

A 700x23-28c tube weighs about 100 grams for reference.

Dr_Shart_Attack_PhD · October 24, 2018, 3:36pm

Just wanted to say that I am really loving my Marathon Supreme 700cx42mm tubeless on the back of my LHT. Looks like it’s going to be durable, tubeless’d really easy, rides nice, feels fast and still has confident grip in the wet. Not exactly weight weenie but I’m cool with 600g given all the upside.

All that being said they appear to make that tire in 650bx42 but not in tubeless? I’d have to assume that a bigger and/or tubeless version has to be in the pipeline but I don’t see mention of it anywhere yet