DQ: Can you use someone else’s Garmin and pull the GPX files in order to upload onto your own Strava?
yeah dont see why not. i mean it works with garminconnect.
you can’t use someone elses garmin with your powertap though.
it’s kinda like those flyin dragons in Avatar
Just want to log a long, long ride that would kill the battery on iphone strava, so yeah.
If I can pull the gpx file, that’ll be perfect.
yo heath, i need some help figuring out a schedule for this term/training block.
M/W class from 9-12 so i can ride for about 3 hours those days
Tues i work from 11-7 so i could do 2x20s or SST in the morning
Thurs is open. I’d like to do my serious work on this day.
Fri i have acupuncture from 9-10am
Sat class till 4 pm 
sunday work from 9-5
lol
[quote=motorbacon]Just want to log a long, long ride that would kill the battery on iphone strava, so yeah.
If I can pull the gpx file, that’ll be perfect.[/quote]
Works just fine, start and stop the ride on the GPS and it autosaves. USB to mini-usb cable and it looks like a block device to your OS, just copy the file off of it.
Monday 2x20 plus mileage 3 hrs
Tuesday 2x20 or easy spin 2 hrs
Wednesday SST or easy spin 3 hrs
Thursday SST plus mileage 5 hrs
Friday long slow day 6 hrs
Saturday 2x20 in the evening 1.5 hrs
Sunday off the bike
Total 20.5 hrs
Work up to that and you might get fast.
work up to 20.5 hours and i better go fuckin pro or i’m sending this thing back to saris
Get me into a multi use garmin. I hike a lot and I want to use it on the bike as well.
Recommendations?
[quote=mick]Get me into a multi use garmin. I hike a lot and I want to use it on the bike as well.
Recommendations?[/quote]
either one of the Forerunner models.
The focus here has been mainly on how to negotiate the learning curve with power training basics, and using the management software (WKO+ or GC). I’ll use too many words to throw in a different angle.
For new and old users alike, the PM can turn into a trap, with a lot of myopic focus on data or misreading of it. I’ve used PMs of one kind or another for more than a decade and seen a lot of files from a guys. I’ve seen it really help some, and really hinder others. When I’ve seen the things backfire, it’s usually for these reasons:
Using a PM prescriptively rather than descriptively. It’s a feedback device, not a master. Some riders start to see it (or a HR monitor) as an indicator to tell them how hard to go. Your central nervous system tells you how hard to go – the PM tells you how hard that is. Learn to read you body and know what VO2, FTP, tempo feel like. Go hard when you’re fresh, rest when you’re tired. It’s really very, very rare to have a day where you feel tired but the watts are still high. For an experienced athlete, perceived exertion is actually pretty accurate.
Using the software prescriptively rather than descriptively. If somebody is shopping for a coach, and the “coach” just runs data through a program, rather than talking to you weekly (or more often), and riding with you, it’s not really coaching. It’s data management. In WKO+, CTL, ATL, and TSB are useful as ways of trying to quantify what your body is already telling you, but they’re the medium, not the message. If you’re following a good periodized program (base-build-taper-peak) the WKO numbers should reflect that. Doing it the opposite way around – trying to juggle the WKO/GC numbers to hit a peak – doesn’t always work. Everybody responds to training stress a bit differently, and tapering is an art. You can have a great race when the WKO numbers wouldn’t predict it, and you can show up to a race with what looks like perfect prep and have a shitty day.
Mistaking training zones for training levels. Training level just means the highest pace you can maintain for a duration. 1 minute, 5 minutes, 30 minutes, an hour, whatever. A zone is range of numbers. Dead horse, but look at the numbers after, not during. During the effort, just go. Learn an inner sense of pace.
Thinking that racking up “points” can be a long-term substitute for getting the miles in. You can rack up a lot of TSS with high tempo/low threshold work in 8-10 hours a week, but if that’s the only method for building base, you hit a ceiling. From what I’ve seen with my own training, and with guys who have been able to steadily improve from year to year over a long period of time, classical Base periodization – with high volume of work just below the first lactate turnpoint (near the top of zone 2, in WKO-speak) ends up improving lipid metabolism more over the long run, and makes the high intensity work more effective when you add that into the picture. Broader the base, higher the peak is still true. Espen Tonnessen’s study on training volume (and his sources) is good to look up. If you want to get as good as you’re going to get, you have to make the sacrifices in your outside of work/school time to fit in those 15+ hours a week. “Sweet spot” is a concept – not a training zone. It simply means getting in the most TSS in the most time. Overton’s big success story – Tom Zirbel – was still doing 20+ hour weeks. That means a lot of zone 2. “SST” isn’t a subsitute for old-school volume – it’s a compromise point if you can’t fit the hours in. Maybe you give up some TV time at night to get up earlier and get on the rollers. Maybe you squeeze in a ride in the middle of the day. But the duration has to come, eventually.
Sometimes it’s best just to ignore the thing. When I’ve had guys get all hung up on the numbers, I have them re-set the computer screen so it no longer gives wattage, or with a PT head or PCV, sometimes they need to just put a piece of electrical tape over the everything but the clock.
Race numbers trump training numbers. It doesn’t matter what the gizmo says if you don’t see your name where you want it to be on the results sheet.
Prolix, jar of dicks, etc. Bottom line is the PM is a means, not an end. When it turns into an end, you’re fucked.
i got a powertap and while i didn’t get blazing fast
i did get really good at remembering three letter acronyms
[quote=teach me how to douggie]i got a powertap and while i didn’t get blazing fast
i did get really good at remembering three letter acronyms[/quote]
That’s another thing. Just follow traditional periodization and use a HRM or perceived exertion and you’ll get very, very close to getting the most out of what nature gave you.
Intelligently and wisely using the PM can give you that last little bit, but it won’t change what you probably already know, which is that you’re fast, or you’re not. Genes are a motherfucker.
Fuck your notions about an HRM. They are very nearly pointless. RPE is superior in every way. It helps to calibrate RPE with a power meter occasionally. As for using a power meter for pacing, it can certainly help one learn to pace.
I don’t think anyone here is confused about that. Folks that don’t have that realization are the same folks that simply ride around, stomp on the pedals a few times and say shit like, “I hit 800w today!”
Heart rate lags, and as such is essentially useless for any interval period shorter than 10+ minutes. I use heart rate as a ceiling, to show me when I’m hitting my max heart rate so I don’t blow up from an effort. I know my power/HR interactions, so I can see how my body is on a specific day.
Power has been very useful in helping me get back after a serious crash/surgery/months off. I don’t stare at it, Rather I use it more as a benchmark, that I interact with depending on how I feel that day. Though I’m one of those people who’ll go weeks without a wattage number over 600 watts, so what do I know.
Having a Powermeter isn’t an excuse for shutting your brain off.
Hello, I’ve just joined this club. Right after I installed the cranks, I went outside to make sure my garmin was reading it. Did 1000w (3s avg) in regular shoes.
I’ve seen reports of fatties, who, oddly are predisposed to having lots of fast twitch get on a bike and stomp out 1500w for 5s.
Kinda meaningless, but certainly fun.
Team director dude estimates my sprint at about 1700, as he’s doing 1640ish and I’m pulling away from him.
I wouldn’t be surprised, but “estimates” are bullshit. You have a power meter now, learn to use it. A real sprint at the end of a real race will give you good data to work from.
That’s why I held out for a crank based power meter inbred of buying a powetap.
HRMs aren’t completely pointless if you’re using power or RPE. Blah blah, decoupling, blah blah blah. Without either one of those, the Eddy method (ride lots) works about as well.
I’m still trying to figure out my TSS for mowing the lawn.